After months of carrying one or another Glock, I recently went back to my old favorite 1911 .45 for a while, if only because I missed it.  It’s not just about tradition and nostalgia.  It’s about habituation, too.  I’ve been shooting Glocks off and on for 25 years…but I’ve been shooting 1911s for more than half a century.  A hoary cliché seems appropriate here: “It fits like the handshake of an old friend.”

Do you ever find yourself putting the modern, high-efficiency firearm back in the safe or the gun case, and heading out to the range or the field with something more “traditional” instead?

Skipping over the high-tech, minute of angle hunting rifle for something like an old Winchester ’94 or a Savage ’99?

Deciding to take an old double-barrel shotgun bird hunting instead of an ultra-light, more “sensible” autoloader?

Strapping on a six-shooter instead of a state of the art semiautomatic pistol because…well, just because, dammit?

Your thoughts on this are solicited.

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  1. I would guess that by traditional you are refering to manufacturing techniques, materials used and trigger mechanisms? Successful autoloader designs have been around since the late 1800’s, DA revolvers since the 1850’s (british designs) modern DA revolvers since the 1890’s. Almost all handguns are updates of the 1911, Browing HP, Walther PPk and P38 or amalgamation of their various features. DA Revolver design seemed to hit an apex with the K-Fram S&W and modern steels. Ruger has kept the design as modern as possible though.

    My normal carry gun is a Y2K manufacture from a design perfected in the 1930’s. My two favorite autoloaders are from designs “obsolete,” in the 1950’s (I do carry and shoot both), one made in the 70’s and one made in the 60’s. My revolvers are K-Frames a design dateing back to the 1890’s (modernized a few times though). Even my 5-shot 9mm wonder snub is based on designs from around 1920.

    My favorite knocking around rifle is an iron-sighted Russian M-44 manufactured in the late 40’s based on an 1891 design. It might be modern though since I restocked it with plastic.

    My hunting shotgun is a simple NEF SB-1, only thing automatic is the ejector. Made with hardwood and steel.

    My normal hunting rifle is a “modern” design. Bolt action in .243 winchester. The bolt action is as modern as 1898, the .243 cartridge is in excess of 50years old. The scope sight on it was purchased modern, but other than better materials and manufacture techniques is as modern as the early 1900’s.

    I don’t own wonder-nines, poly-shooters or semi-auto shotguns. Guess I am more of a traditionalist now that I think about it.

  2. Mas, I get it too. I’ve shot the 1911 for over 35 years now, and still think it is a solid choice for just about everything I want to do with a pistol of any kind. It may not the best “hold your suspect at bay while the cops get here” pistol, many will find its recoil “objectionable,” or its weight, but they are a pure pleasure to shoot, easy to CCW, and its manual of arms is pretty similar to that of any repeating shotgun or rifle in terms of state of readiness. It is thus easy for me to remember the motions it takes to employ it.

    Long may she defend freedom!

  3. A revolution has been going on in manufacturing and it is time to think about what is really new and old. I’d suggest that some of the designs of the last 30 years (the new guns) were designed not so much with the end user in mind but for ease of manufacture and to avoid forging, machining, and hand fitting. When Sig and H&K started using stallings instead of forgings in the 1980’s it had as much to do with expensive labor as it did with ergonomics for the end user.

    But now with innovations like metal injection molding and mature CNC technology, machined parts made nearly to hand fitted precision really isn’t much more, if any, difficult than stamping steel and dropping it into injection molded plastic.

    Now there is more hi-tech manufacturing in any given 1911 (multi axis CNC machines, CMM’s, etc.) than there is in a stamped (early 1900’s technology) and injection molded (1960’s technology) plastic wonder gun.

    One might think maybe old man Browning was just ahead of his time more than people think.

  4. Put me down for S&W K frames in various models or a Remington 870. My modern gun is a CZ-75B in .40 S&W.

  5. I too have shot a 1911 style .45 for about 20 years but recently I felt like it was time to change to a higher capacity and perhaps less finicky weapon. I recently purchased the Springfield and Glock variety and while they are superb weapons, nothing is quite like the 1911 style. To me, the fit in the hand is very important. This translates to effective recoil control and confidence when you need it the most.

    Thanks Mr. Browning.

  6. I started my carry life with a S/S 1911 Gov’t .45, still own and carry it and I’ve collected a few S&W’s and Ruger revolvers that I’ve carried occasionally too. (Currently carrying a Security Six .357)

    I will never own or carry a Glock, SiG, CZ, XD, ect….if I feel the need to go small, the 1911 Officers model in .45 ACP or the Ruger SP-101 in .357 Magnum can handle whatever may come up. I have total confidence in either of these calibers.

    A 1911 or revolver fits my personality; simple, easy to use the controls, and easy to field strip and clean. My .02

  7. Jeez Mas, you struck a nerve! Finally found a 1911 that I can conceal and as soon as it gets a little tune-up (Officers Model Colt), I too will be moth-balling my Glocks. The Glocks are a lot of fun to mix and match parts with though especially if I can ever get the parts all back to where they belong; kinda like playing dress-up with my dolls! Hey, girls just want to have fun.
    Jo Ann

  8. I’m with the revolver crowd myself. I’ve burned my share and then some through various 9/40/45’s, but when all is said and done, my 686 and the little brother, the Model 38 are my choices for their appropriate circumstances. I own several other Smith’s, but these are the meat/meet guns; one for meat, one nobody should meet.

  9. I have the luxury of several handguns to carry, but pack my Springfield 1911 in .45 ACP every day with two spare magazines. The pistol is flat as are the magazines, which makes it quite concealable even under light clothing and comfortable to pack. I prefer to have a manual safety on my main carry gun and the 1911 grip with 30 LPI checkering on the front strap and a Hoag grip safety feels just right in my hands. The other two pistols which feels perfect for me are the Browning P-35 and SIG 220. The P-35 is in 9mm which to me isn’t adequate for serious defensive use and I don’t like DA/SA autos, but kept my SIG 220 mainly for sentimental reasons since I carried that gun during my 9+ years on the job and it’s the only gun, besides a Remington 870 I have ever pointed at another (bad) person – many times.

    I have a Glock 20 SF and 21 SF I like to shoot and use as home guns, but prefer not to carry them as they’re quite bulky and the magazines are very thick and uncomfortable to carry, especially while driving as my car has bucket seats. The 1911 in a Milt Sparks Summer Special is the gun I’ve carried for over 20 years and I have absolute confidence in it.

    If revolvers are to be carried, my primary choice is my S&W 625 Mountain Gun in .45 ACP. Second choice would be either my S&W 625 Mountain Gun in .45 Colt or S&W 629 Mountain Gun. All three of these don’t have the internal/infernal lock, nor do any of my other S&W revolvers in .22 LR, 38 Special, and .357 Magnum. I like revolvers, but prefer not to carry them for defensive use because the reloads are too difficult to pack. Full moon clips are barely less bulky than speedloaders, so aren’t concealable unless one is wearing heavy clothing. I could see using the newer Quick Strip loaders from Tuff Products for the .44 Magnum and .45 Colt, which is a larger version of the old Bianchi Speed Strip only made for the .38/.357 cartridges.

    As far as long guns for serious purposes, I stay with my Springfield Armory M1As, semi-auto AK-47 types in 7.62 X 39mm, and short Remington 870s in 12 gauge. I do have AR-15 type rifles, but due to it’s varmint caliber, use them for home defense with soft point ammunition only.

  10. Thanks for the reminder! Think I will get out today and carry it just because I can. Of course it does not hurt that I am 6-5 and 300lbs either. Always enjoy your blog

  11. It works the same for us new blood who have only known the more modern semi-autos.

    I have a small collection of beretta handguns, that I carried regularly, but for the past year and a half (granted, this is nothing like Mas’s half century of 1911 use or quarter century of GLOCK use, but it still applies) I’ve been carrying an M&Pc. I still shoot my berettas, but when it comes time to put one back in the holster for carry, I keep going back to the Smith. It’s just simply become familiar and feels right. I’m accurate with my berettas, but they just don’t feel as ‘right’ as they used to. Both the smith, the berettas, my GLOCK, and my Sig are ALL bang-on reliable. They all shoot well if I do my part (that’s the hard part, isn’t it), but it’s that smith that has grown to be so familiar.

    It also goes for holsters. I’ve got a small version of what some folks have a large dresser drawer of: various holsters, but when it comes down to it, that inexpensive Acker Glock model 30 OWB w/ no thumb-break wins just about every time except in certain extenuating circumstances. And by wins, I mean used for concealed carry. Like the smith (which fits precisely like a Glock 30, or 21 for the full size), it’s just become familiar and its holding up beautifully.

    I say this as a guy who likes gadgets and the ‘new thing.’ I see a new kind of gun that works, and I think “oooo! I’d like that!” but if I get it, I may intend for it to be used for practical carry, but it’ll probably end up as one of my fun range guns that I’ll never want to sell. Because I simply LIKE carrying that Smith in that Acker holster. In a world where there’s always the newest gadget and the latest fad, and as one who is drawn to those things like they’re the siren’s call there’s just something to be said about that old (relatively speaking) friend on the hip, and that old (relatively speaking) 4-wheeled friend. They’re just THERE and they work and they do their jobs well and you know how they do things just-so. And while certain parts may get replaced or upgraded, you’ll always want them to feel just-so, even if they get to do their jobs better as you work on them, but not so radically that the feel changes to something unfamiliar.

    On my smith, I don’t want that trigger break changing. It’s bang-on (pun intended), and it is just right. Not too heavy, not too light. I’m thinking of upgrading the sights, but they’ll still be 3-post sights. I’m thinking of going with a non-hinge trigger and shorter reset, but that break will still remain the same, and the grip will remain the same, and that front sight will always be placed between the 2 rear posts. And I’ll always carry a full sized 2nd mag, with the compact 10-round mag for concealed.

    And I hope to be saying the same thing about the same gun 50 years down the road if the good Lord gives me those years.

    I’m a young man and used to being on the move and having to move or take new jobs semi-regularly. And through all that change, it’s nice to still feel that same old weight, and think “hello old friend.”

  12. Carried my Officer’s model for years, it was my first carry gun and I used it because I never qualified less that 94% with it and a couple of 100’s. When I sold it for extra $$$ so I could take our daughter to Disney World I knew I’d go back to something similar. Now I carry a Sig Stainless carry and am nearly as accurate, and have a TACOPS for home and woods carry both in .45 acp. I occasionally carry the Marlin 336 in 30-30, just ‘cuz.

  13. Well I’m really jealous, ( I’m from Illinois) Carrying a piece is out of the question.
    I started bullseye shooting with a Colt Gold Cup. So I prefer the 1911, however with GSSF I have acquired a G17, G22, G34, G37 and another G17 converted to shoot unlimited division. In my family room I have an old Star PD ( in .45acp) for those youngsters out there. 7 shots with a loaded chamber, and aluminum frame. Jeff Cooper said ( I believe)” It’s meant to be carried a lot and shot very Little”. Behind my bedroom door is a Bounty Hunter II (Coach gun) made by Baikal (Russia) 12 gauge double with a cuff on the stock for extra shells. I have also cut the stock down and fitted a recoil pad.
    I once had a fellow at the range that saw me with a couple of Glocks and he said he hated them. I had to agree that the trigger pull was horrible and if I had a 1911 with that kind of trigger pull and couldn’t fix it, I would take it down to the river and throw it in.
    There is that old saying, “Beware of the man with only one gun, for he probably knows how to use it!”

  14. As many others here have stated, my CC firearm of choice is my Kimber Crimson Carry 3″ 1911 on my right hip. On the left side I always carry two spare mags. I had the unfortunate luck of having a mag spring break in a fire-fight near the Laos border in 1967. So, I never leave home without spare mags. My favorite shotgun to this day is the Ithaca “Sweet Sixteen” 28″, Mod., that my dad gave me when I was 12. It is a 1947 model and I can pump rounds almost as fast as my Remington 1100 can spew-out.

  15. I carry a S&W 686+ most often. 7 rounds of 357 magnum makes me happy. But I have two Glocks and they are easy to use and accurate and I love ’em.

  16. At 32 (going on 33) I’m an old man in a young man’s body. All of my handguns these days are revolvers. All but 2 of those I have owned (11 out of 13 total) have been Revolvers. Of those 11, 10 have been S&W Hand Ejectors- the exception was a Ruger GP-100.

    When it Comes to Shotguns, My favorites- and guns I shoot best- are 2 Browning Auto-5s (Magnum-12 and Light-20) and an Ithaca 37.

    I have owned a wide variety of shotguns- including “newer” and “more modern” models, and found that the older designs work better, fit me better and are made better. Give me traditional designs that I shoot well over “modern” junk.

  17. I will sometimes carry a 1911 or Smith K-frame instead of my Glock for exactly those reasons. I’ve even been known to have a .45 SAA concealed on my person if the mood strikes me. But, for me, like the OP, the 1911 will always feel just “right” even if it’s not the right pistol for the times.

  18. I have a couple of 1911s but I still keep my old service revolver, ( a 686 S&W ) in a holster mounted on a wall by the door along with an extra speed loader and a Kel Light.

  19. Mas….After 40 years as a LEO, old habits just keep getting stronger. Back in the day, witha S&W 19 or even a Mod. 36, the empasis was on reloading drills, use of front sights, draw and retention. The drill for a misfire was pull the trigger again. When my agency went through Berettas and Glocks we added stoppage drills, making sure we didn’t limp-wrist, have 9mm in the .40 mag, etc. Now, I find that my hammerless SP 101 .357 or 442 make a 100% reliable, no jam carry combo. However, I do carry the 1911 for those “something tells me” moments. Sees like there’s getting to be more of those however….

  20. Since moving onto my small ranch three years ago, my focus has become more of the outdoorsman than the tactician. My ranch carry is always a revolver and most often a Ruger Blackhawk. The past year, however, a 4″ Model 10 and a similar Model 64 have been in tight competition for 2nd place. Like Steve above, I load two snake shot, and I follow them with semi-wadcutters in the 900 fps to 1050 fps range. When it’s time to go to town, however, the 1911 travels with me most.

    I don’t own any of the modern polymer-framed handguns. Several years ago, though, I had the opportunity to attend a computerized shoot-no shoot class that used a laser “gun” attached to the lower unit of a Glock. I didn’t like the trigger much, but I found it very easy to adapt. In fact, I did quite well on the course until I saw my best friend (a 20 year LEO vet) playing a bad guy and got tickled. It’s hard to shoot straight when you’re laughing.

  21. Most non-gun people just don’t understand why we love our guns. Its not about macho, penis envy or feeling powerful. A gun is a work of art, a fine piece of mechanical engineering that looks, feels, sounds and smells like nothing else. The 1911 has all these plus it is historic and nostalgic. The fact that our forefathers recognized the importance of this fine tool makes it all the better. The added bonus that it can be used to protect us from evil. Now let me go and get mine out of the safe

  22. I still think the U.S. Navy SEAL who shot OBL should have used a Browning 1911 pistol .45 ACP.

    Besides being a superior CQB weapon, especially inside a small dark building against opponents who are unlikely to be wearing body armor, a large caliber handgun produces much less muzzle blast and flash than a varmint cartridge. Also, since the event occured in 2011, the centennial of the Browning 1911, it would have been a very appropriate use of this revered weapon to terminate one of America’s most despised enemies.

    Just because a gun or any mechanical device was designed a long time ago, does not mean it’s not as effective or efficient in the present time.

    My personally customized 1911 in .45 ACP which started off as a Springfield Mil-Spec model and still has it’s factory installed barrel, will shoot as well as any recently designed pistol and feeds ammunition with bullet shapes that would choke my modified Glock 21 SF and SIG 220.

  23. Going through the same situation myself. Recently put away the Glock 17 and am now carrying a classic HK P9S instead. I have owned the Glock for almost 20 years now, and it is still as reliable and steady as it always has been but there is a new girl in town (The HK!) and she has taken over as the carry piece. Really, it’s a win win no matter which one is holstered. Both are great guns and have their distinct advantages and sexiness. 🙂

  24. Last month I picked up a Kel-Tec P11 in hard chrome for a primary carry pistol. I love it. Light, handy, super concealable, weather- and carry-proof and hits hard with the right loads (if all my research is to be believed; I’d prefer to leave that untested beyond the occasional water jug).
    I had carried a Baikal IJ-70 in 9×18 Makarov for eight years before that. My first pistol, a pretty good CCW considering that it hadn’t been designed as one. But it was heavy for its size, surprisingly hard for me to conceal comfortably, had tiny sights and a heel-mount mag release, only held 8+1 rounds of a dubious caliber, etc., etc.
    I love that little beast. The Kel-Tec makes more sense to carry, but Mak has a charm all his own. Nothing at all but steel and Bakelite. Accurate as anything, too. I love the supple brown leather Russian military holster it came with; I wish open carry wasn’t such a no-no where I live.
    I don’t own any AR variants, but I can lose myself in a forest of Mosin-Nagants for hours. I have six of them, all with accessories. The aroma of cosmoline and musty leather and canvas and Kirza when I unpack the sling and pouches and cleaning goodies is fully half the thrill of a Mosin purchase.
    I have deep respect for the innovation and efficiency of modern firearms, but there is something about an old gun that can only come with age and history.

  25. Up here in Canada we can neither open carry nor concealed carry but if we legally could I’d lean toward a 1911 in .45 ACP. There’s not a thing wrong with carrying an old gun or an old design “just because, dammit.” While friends tease me for hunting with a rusty old jack handle, in bear country I always bring along an iron sighted No. 1 Mk. III Lee Enfield in .303 not just because its feel, balance, pointability and long history of effectiveness inspire confidence but because it is an elegant rifle. On the other hand I would have no qualms about using a Kel Tec shotgun instead of my 870 Wingmaster for home defence — assuming they’ve worked all the glitches out of it — if and when it becomes available north of the border.

  26. I think I may have taken this trend too far.

    I carry a Ruger New Vaquero in 357Mag. Love it. But I’m not happy with the reload speed. First step was setting up a muzzle-gas-powered auto shell-ejector – it unloads itself as I shoot it. The loading gate is split in half, with the upper stage dropping down after the second cock so that it stays closed long enough to keep live shells in but opens as soon as an empty is in front of it.

    Second stage is the magazine feed system – spring-loaded tube mags that ram new rounds in just left of the hammer. Once the cylinder is dry and it starts this feed cycle, it will pick up a round just left of the hammer, go once right to fire, right again to gas-eject. Same as the 20mm cannons on an F86 Saberjet except manually operated instead of electric :). A one-foot stainless tube should be able to hold 8rds of 9mm and yes, I’m converting the critter to 9mmPara. Scored a leftover piece of Douglas Premium barrel from some guy’s carbine project on Fleabay. Ordering a Bowen cylinder blank today.

    At that point there won’t even be a standard term for the action type in question. “Gas-ejecting mag fed single action revolver”? If I can get the spiral-coil-mags working with up to 20 rounds plus six in the cylinder I’d be able to shoot a whole SASS stage with one gun, no reloads right up until they throw my butt out laughing themselves silly. I also figured out that there’s no rule against it in ICORE or Steel Challenge…not yet anyways.

    And yeah. This is happening. Youtube will go bonkers if I can pull it off.

    Oh…and the sights. Those are already massively improved – with a homebrew clone of the Goshen Enterprises “Hexsite”.

    Hey Mas, if there’s no longer a standard term for your action type, is that a sign that you might just have modded it too much?

  27. My first Carry was a old 1911 that I got from my grandfather. Got a used Detonics Combaty Master then about 6 years ago I bought a Taurus PT745MP, mainly because it was cheap, lighter and small, when it was time to grow, I bought a Ruger P345, pretty much based on a article you wrote in a magazine a few years ago, I carried that until I bought my Sig 1911 C3 which I switched out a year ago for a full size Sig 1911 GSR,

    Love my 1911, can’t think of carrying tuperware anymore

  28. The agency issues a SIG 229 for duty and I have a personal 229 for off duty. I love the Glock and Beretta platforms and have several that I also carry. While I love the m1911A1 since my Army MP days from the 70’s my all time love is the Smith and Wesson Model 19 Combat Magnum. That revolver gives me peace of mind like no other handgun. I still shoot the occasional IDPA or ICORE match with the one I have and I use it as my carry piece on match days. I admit the semi auto has many more advantages and the capacity issue is a concern, even so I feel the M19 Combat Magnum is more than enough for most anything I might run into. Of course I have to carry the traditional old school M36 Chief Special as a backup on those days. 🙂

  29. Hello Mas.
    I carry a snubnose revolver, either J or K frame. However, I do not do this from a sense of nostalgia, I do so because I am most proficent with revolvers.

  30. Like you, Mas, I have been carrying a 1911 for well over 40 years – in my case a pair of Colt Series 80 Gov’t Models (primarily), one bought 30 yrs ago, the other 7 yrs ago. The former has 6-7,000 rds through it, while the latter is like new with scarcely 500 rds fired.
    I do carry a Charter Arms .44 Spcl Bulldog, . 45ACP SIG P250C or .380 SIG P238 in warmer weather – or when it suits me (I’m disabled w/ spinal injuries) – but the Recon Marine in me won’t allow me to abandon my Gov’t Models, as the newer one resides on my nightstand, the other in my car/truck at all times regardless what I have on my person. And I carry generally carry an RRA M4 clone or 870 12GA in my trunk (and bedroom) at all times for good measure. Overkill? No such thing. But I do sometimes switch to my trusty Marlin .30-30, depending on where I’m traveling (it presents better than that evil “black rifle”, y’know).
    And, as I train religeously on all of them to the point where I can instantly identify and operate each in the dark, I don’t worry about hesitation or confusion over which weapon I might have. 16 years in Recon taught me that.
    But, given a choice, I’d opt for my 1911 Gov’t Model every time because it “just fels right.” Nuff said.

  31. Have to agree with the traditionalists. I have my grandfather’s Winchester model 1894 (as it sez right on the upper tang), and the serial number indicates it was made in 1897. He got it for his 16th birthday. Shoots fine.

    I also have replica 1911 GI model, and once again, it’s the appeal of the traditional. If I ever add anything to these two, it’ll be an M1 (Garand or carbine) or even a Trapdoor of some vintage or other.

    I get it there’s a vibrant and growing Gun Culture 2.0, which centers on black steel & plastic. But for me, I’m solidly in 1.0 and happiest among blued steel and walnut.

    Those are guns made before the whole culture decided irony was the default stance toward everything.

  32. The Latest and Greatest versus the Tried and True, is always a fun topic with a potentially serious side. For my money, I feel your environment should be your first consideration when choosing of weapon and ammo, but that still leaves a lot of room for choice.

    My wife and I live in an urban area. I feel I owe it to my neighbors to minimize their involvement in any personal problems, which may arise around me and/or my spouse. The very real possibility of stray bullets whizzing through windows, walls, or thin air should concern a person who doesn’t feel that sharing is always a good thing. In town, at home or on the streets, a revolver of .38 caliber or larger, with the single-action feature removed, and loaded with frangible projectiles is the perfect choice for a gun guy, whose wife isn’t into guns enough to wish to master the autoloading pistol (or vice versa). The projectile launcher should be reliable, effective, and suit the individual.

    In my house the newest wheelgun is a 1970s vintage S&W N-frame. The house gun is an old but reliable Astra .38 with no hammer spur or single action notch, loaded with frangible bullets and grips which are a good compromise between her paw size and mine. Backup is an old Stevens Model 520 12 gauge pump, with 18 1/2″ barrel, 2 3/4″, loaded with OO buck–hopefully, nothing will escalate to that point, but if it does . . . Street wear usually defaults to a choice of Old School .38 snubs, S&W or Colt, a shop-worn German-made Walther PPK/S in .380 acp, OR a CZ45 .25acp when you just don’t feel like wearing a sidearm.
    In the great outdoors, either my 6 1/2″ S&W M24, or my 1961-vintage Ruger Blackhawk .44 Mag. Social carrying in those lovely rural climes defaults to a 1911 .45, loaded with good quality hollow-points, or one of the above mentioned snubbies.
    Like most of us that are really into this gig, I have a lot of guns that I just like and have fun with. Some, like my Steyr M9, Beretta Cougar, and SIG P220, are familiar on today’s gun ranges, but I don’t get the same kick as shooting my Broomhandle Mauser. However, when I’m really feeling nostalgic, I’ll unlimber my old 1907 Colt Bisley in .38 WCF, and grab my 1907 vintage 1899 Savage in .30 WCF. Very Old School, but I wouldn’t feel a bit outgunned.

    Well, that’s my two cents worth.

  33. Got my first 1911 at age 15 from a Chicago pawn shop in 1962. Since then I have owned dozens of them and used them during my time of service from 1964 to 1980.

    I later became a user of high cap plastic in all its forms. But… yes… sometimes I just need to pack that 1911 or that .357 S &W mod 13… you are correct. Like the handshake of an old friend.

    Glad to hear I am not the only one.

  34. Since my carry is a quite chunky and oldschool condition 1 CZ Rami, and my home defense/woods gun is a 45oz CZ SP-01, also condition 1 and with a TLR-1 light I don’t really have this dilemma.

    If I wanted a lighter gun I would simply pick up a phantom or P-01, because I love condition 1 carry, heavy handguns, and a trigger that you can have a gunsmith really perfect.

    As for rifles and shotguns, I’m young so I’ve only ever used semiautos, and I’m in love with the AR-15.