Today, supposedly, a grand jury convenes in Missouri to examine the facts surrounding the death of Michael Brown at the hands of FPD officer Darren Wilson, to determine if an indictable crime has been committed. One talking head on TV even said that hearsay would be permitted there, which if true is nothing less than a travesty.
The grand jury review itself, it would seem, is coming awfully early. The general public does not realize how long it takes to complete a homicide investigation. The toxicology screen on the deceased, which can be a critical factor, may or may not have been completed yet, but to the best of my knowledge such results have not yet been released to the public.
Members of the grand jury will be under tremendous social and political pressure to indict. The state’s own governor has, incredibly, called for “vigorous prosecution.” Damn shame he didn’t have the integrity to call for “vigorous investigation” instead. One should not be convicted before trial in the Governor’s Mansion instead of in a courtroom.
The smell of mob rule is growing stronger, and more fetid.
Also today, Attorney General Eric Holder is expected to be on the ground in Ferguson for investigative purposes. Many pundits expect him to visit with the family of the deceased; certainly, there’s nothing wrong with that.
But I sincerely hope that the AG, our nation’s chief law enforcement officer, will visit the family of the injured officer as well.
Dennis I miss read your post than I well am sorry I miss read them. But you made mistake I armed private security officer been one more six years in one most dangers place be one Phoenix, Arizona where had my share of near death experiences in deadly force encounters in the line of duty . Not kind private security officers who work private gulf club one those who has work as arm security officer some worst place you can be one Dennis . Dennis it place has highest rate of cop fatally in country. Dennis where live front line boarding clash take place right between Mexico and USA. So no civilian thing go in streets I haven seen many thing I have post from news first hand. Dennis before spent 6 years as arms guard spent four years as unarmed security officer in night clubs breaking up fights between drunk black and hispanic gang member who fight each other until pepper spray or arrest. Dennis please read my posts before you lecture me. My observations come from my experiences, not from idle musings.
Dennis I miss read your post than I well am sorry I miss read them. But you made mistake I armed private security officer been one more six years in one most dangers place be one Phoenix, Arizona where had my share of near death experiences in deadly force encounters in the line of duty . Not kind private security officers who work private gulf club one those who has work as arm security officer some worst place you can be one Dennis . Dennis it place has highest rate of cop fatally in country. Dennis where live front line boarding clash take place right between Mexico and USA. So no civilian thing go in streets I haven seen many thing I have post from news first hand. Dennis before spent 6 years as arms guard spent four years as unarmed security officer in night clubs breaking up fights between drunk black and hispanic gang member who fight each other until pepper spray or arrest. Dennis please read my posts before you lecture me. My observations come from my experiences, not from idle musings.
Dennis I miss read your post than I well am sorry I miss read them. But you made mistake I armed private security officer been one more six years in one most dangers place be one Phoenix, Arizona where had my share of near death experiences in deadly force encounters in the line of duty . Not kind private security officers who work private gulf club one those who has work as arm security officer some worst place you can be one Dennis . Dennis it place has highest rate of cop fatally in country. Dennis where live front line boarding clash take place right between Mexico and USA. So no civilian thing go in streets I haven seen many thing I have post from news first hand. Dennis before spent 6 years as arms guard spent four years as unarmed security officer in night clubs breaking up fights between drunk black and hispanic gang member who fight each other until pepper spray or arrest. Dennis please read my posts before you lecture me. My observations come from my experiences, not from idle musings.
How can one “believe the witnesses backing the officers actions” when the only alleged witnesses to go public thus far have said Brown was shot at or shot in the back as he fled and that he was also shot as he tried to surrender, plus we have not yet heard Officer Wilson’s description of his actions? Let’s try to remember the title of this article, “Rush To Judgment?”
How can one “believe the witnesses backing the officers actions” when the only alleged witnesses to go public thus far have said Brown was shot at or shot in the back as he fled and that he was also shot as he tried to surrender, plus we have not yet heard Officer Wilson’s description of his actions? Let’s try to remember the title of this article, “Rush To Judgment?”
Dennis, thank you for your service as a First Responder, and best wishes on a continued well-earned second career/retirement! God bless you!
Dennis, thank you for your service as a First Responder, and best wishes on a continued well-earned second career/retirement! God bless you!
Hey Dennis 43 year being cop did you ever have police incident report that was missing key information??? I have friend cops ever time they have incident with any body they fill out incident reports detail ever action take reaction to incident same day happens. Is stranger that in this incident police report missing all key facts from what happen from cop which this take place with. One has ask where did Ferguson police chief get his facts explain event took place with Michael Brown case if police incident report was blank of those facts from cop who was there. I well leave link below police report showing that fields for the type of incident, name of the complainant, and a summary of the circumstances are redacted. Dennis 43 year being good cop how ever there bunch cops out there not good cops. When young man live in Escondido Ca we had California highway patrolman Craig Peyer who was 13-year CHP veteran with an untarnished record pull over Cara Knott’s on bridge strangling her than toss her off bridge. I well be first admit these two story share nothing with each other than both cops in them had untarnished records but prove my point untarnished record make cop good only up to point tarnish that record. Buy way Craig Peyer untarnished record did stop jury find him guilty of murder.
Hey Dennis 43 year being cop did you ever have police incident report that was missing key information??? I have friend cops ever time they have incident with any body they fill out incident reports detail ever action take reaction to incident same day happens. Is stranger that in this incident police report missing all key facts from what happen from cop which this take place with. One has ask where did Ferguson police chief get his facts explain event took place with Michael Brown case if police incident report was blank of those facts from cop who was there. I well leave link below police report showing that fields for the type of incident, name of the complainant, and a summary of the circumstances are redacted. Dennis 43 year being good cop how ever there bunch cops out there not good cops. When young man live in Escondido Ca we had California highway patrolman Craig Peyer who was 13-year CHP veteran with an untarnished record pull over Cara Knott’s on bridge strangling her than toss her off bridge. I well be first admit these two story share nothing with each other than both cops in them had untarnished records but prove my point untarnished record make cop good only up to point tarnish that record. Buy way Craig Peyer untarnished record did stop jury find him guilty of murder.
Hey Dennis 43 year being cop did you ever have police incident report that was missing key information??? I have friend cops ever time they have incident with any body they fill out incident reports detail ever action take reaction to incident same day happens. Is stranger that in this incident police report missing all key facts from what happen from cop which this take place with. One has ask where did Ferguson police chief get his facts explain event took place with Michael Brown case if police incident report was blank of those facts from cop who was there. I well leave link below police report showing that fields for the type of incident, name of the complainant, and a summary of the circumstances are redacted. Dennis 43 year being good cop how ever there bunch cops out there not good cops. When young man live in Escondido Ca we had California highway patrolman Craig Peyer who was 13-year CHP veteran with an untarnished record pull over Cara Knott’s on bridge strangling her than toss her off bridge. I well be first admit these two story share nothing with each other than both cops in them had untarnished records but prove my point untarnished record make cop good only up to point tarnish that record. Buy way Craig Peyer untarnished record did stop jury find him guilty of murder.
Ps Here link official Ferguson police report on Michael Brown’s death. You can all read it make up your own mind up if gives all enough info on case go court with it defend life with it.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/237538105/Michael-Brown-Offense-Report
Ps Here link official Ferguson police report on Michael Brown’s death. You can all read it make up your own mind up if gives all enough info on case go court with it defend life with it.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/237538105/Michael-Brown-Offense-Report
Ps Here link official Ferguson police report on Michael Brown’s death. You can all read it make up your own mind up if gives all enough info on case go court with it defend life with it.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/237538105/Michael-Brown-Offense-Report
Patrick, I hesitate trying to explain this, but I will an attempt. I can’t speak to Missouri law, only law from my previous jurisdiction.
First, let me explain that initial incident reports will usually have as brief a description of events as possible that will include only the info necessary to satisfy the elements of the offense being alleged. Subsequent information will be included in investigative “followup reports”.
Because of complaints from victims and witnesses who were being inundated by letters and phone calls from “ambulance chasing attorneys” in our state, legislation was passed making only the first page of offense/incident reports and arrest reports available to the public. All witness information and narratives of the offense/incident/arrest were relegated to subsequent pages. Prior to this legislation, attorneys lined up daily at the report division of our department and others across the state eagerly awaiting the opportunity to pay a dollar a page to get copies of these reports and return to their offices and begin calling to offer their services to those involved. Passage of this legislation was to protect the privacy of victims/witnesses. Some were receiving numerous calls a day for weeks, unsolicited.
I have no knowledge if Missouri has such laws or not, most states do. Please try to understand, at this point, this is an investigation, not a prosecution. If charges are ultimately filed, rest assured defense counsel will be provided with this information.
I am sure the media’s attorneys know of these limitations, but the media is in the midst of building their own narrative. They have no desire to give folks information that doesn’t further that narrative.
Imagine the joy of those who witnessed this incident waking up with a front yard full of reporters and representatives of the different activist groups that are involved, harassing you and making your life a living hell for the who knows how long.
Sorry Patrick, from this post on, I must cry Uncle. I’ll not respond to your posts.
Patrick, I hesitate trying to explain this, but I will an attempt. I can’t speak to Missouri law, only law from my previous jurisdiction.
First, let me explain that initial incident reports will usually have as brief a description of events as possible that will include only the info necessary to satisfy the elements of the offense being alleged. Subsequent information will be included in investigative “followup reports”.
Because of complaints from victims and witnesses who were being inundated by letters and phone calls from “ambulance chasing attorneys” in our state, legislation was passed making only the first page of offense/incident reports and arrest reports available to the public. All witness information and narratives of the offense/incident/arrest were relegated to subsequent pages. Prior to this legislation, attorneys lined up daily at the report division of our department and others across the state eagerly awaiting the opportunity to pay a dollar a page to get copies of these reports and return to their offices and begin calling to offer their services to those involved. Passage of this legislation was to protect the privacy of victims/witnesses. Some were receiving numerous calls a day for weeks, unsolicited.
I have no knowledge if Missouri has such laws or not, most states do. Please try to understand, at this point, this is an investigation, not a prosecution. If charges are ultimately filed, rest assured defense counsel will be provided with this information.
I am sure the media’s attorneys know of these limitations, but the media is in the midst of building their own narrative. They have no desire to give folks information that doesn’t further that narrative.
Imagine the joy of those who witnessed this incident waking up with a front yard full of reporters and representatives of the different activist groups that are involved, harassing you and making your life a living hell for the who knows how long.
Sorry Patrick, from this post on, I must cry Uncle. I’ll not respond to your posts.
Patrick, I hesitate trying to explain this, but I will an attempt. I can’t speak to Missouri law, only law from my previous jurisdiction.
First, let me explain that initial incident reports will usually have as brief a description of events as possible that will include only the info necessary to satisfy the elements of the offense being alleged. Subsequent information will be included in investigative “followup reports”.
Because of complaints from victims and witnesses who were being inundated by letters and phone calls from “ambulance chasing attorneys” in our state, legislation was passed making only the first page of offense/incident reports and arrest reports available to the public. All witness information and narratives of the offense/incident/arrest were relegated to subsequent pages. Prior to this legislation, attorneys lined up daily at the report division of our department and others across the state eagerly awaiting the opportunity to pay a dollar a page to get copies of these reports and return to their offices and begin calling to offer their services to those involved. Passage of this legislation was to protect the privacy of victims/witnesses. Some were receiving numerous calls a day for weeks, unsolicited.
I have no knowledge if Missouri has such laws or not, most states do. Please try to understand, at this point, this is an investigation, not a prosecution. If charges are ultimately filed, rest assured defense counsel will be provided with this information.
I am sure the media’s attorneys know of these limitations, but the media is in the midst of building their own narrative. They have no desire to give folks information that doesn’t further that narrative.
Imagine the joy of those who witnessed this incident waking up with a front yard full of reporters and representatives of the different activist groups that are involved, harassing you and making your life a living hell for the who knows how long.
Sorry Patrick, from this post on, I must cry Uncle. I’ll not respond to your posts.
Mas gone take good advice from friend who cop on matter from now on let people who live in Ferguson and work there ponder what went on with there own police. My cop friend asked me what part what happen Ferguson gone effect any thing happening where live now when I said nothing my cop friend said if not effecting you why should give damn about some thing does have effect on you . He said there lots people there all ready doing that. So gone follow advise stop posting on subject after all right I do not live in Ferguson. I do not really care what happen there enough issue face state and city in which I live does effect more than what going on Ferguson. Realize got caught up bullshit cable news media been fan flames this story for there own benefits. So wash my hands matter let those that this really effects deal with it.
Mas gone take good advice from friend who cop on matter from now on let people who live in Ferguson and work there ponder what went on with there own police. My cop friend asked me what part what happen Ferguson gone effect any thing happening where live now when I said nothing my cop friend said if not effecting you why should give damn about some thing does have effect on you . He said there lots people there all ready doing that. So gone follow advise stop posting on subject after all right I do not live in Ferguson. I do not really care what happen there enough issue face state and city in which I live does effect more than what going on Ferguson. Realize got caught up bullshit cable news media been fan flames this story for there own benefits. So wash my hands matter let those that this really effects deal with it.
Mas gone take good advice from friend who cop on matter from now on let people who live in Ferguson and work there ponder what went on with there own police. My cop friend asked me what part what happen Ferguson gone effect any thing happening where live now when I said nothing my cop friend said if not effecting you why should give damn about some thing does have effect on you . He said there lots people there all ready doing that. So gone follow advise stop posting on subject after all right I do not live in Ferguson. I do not really care what happen there enough issue face state and city in which I live does effect more than what going on Ferguson. Realize got caught up bullshit cable news media been fan flames this story for there own benefits. So wash my hands matter let those that this really effects deal with it.
This just came out on CNN. FBI apparently interviewed and picked up an AUDIO RECORDING of the Ferguson shoot. Interesting factoid. Doesn’t settle anything but sure is more of the puzzle. I would bet dollars to doughnuts that a video at some point shows up.
http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/kill-shots-captured-fbi-handed-audio-darren-wilson-dumping-guns-magazine-michael-brown/
This just came out on CNN. FBI apparently interviewed and picked up an AUDIO RECORDING of the Ferguson shoot. Interesting factoid. Doesn’t settle anything but sure is more of the puzzle. I would bet dollars to doughnuts that a video at some point shows up.
http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/kill-shots-captured-fbi-handed-audio-darren-wilson-dumping-guns-magazine-michael-brown/
Missouri Sunshine Law.
Law Enforcement
Should a juvenile’s name be redacted from a police report before being released pursuant to a Sunshine Law request?
Section 610.100, RSMo, does not directly address the names of juveniles, but another statute that should be considered is § 211.321.3, RSMo, which states: “Peace officers’ records. . . of children . . . shall not be open to inspection or their contents disclosed, except by order of the court.”
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Are criminal records related to a case with a suspended imposition of sentence open or closed records?
If an individual receives a suspended imposition of sentence (SIS), the records are open during the period of probation. Once the individual successfully completes the period of probation, the records are then closed. Section 610.105, RSMo.
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Are motorists involved in automobile accidents entitled to an accident report, even if the case is under review with the prosecutor about pending charges?
Generally, a person who was “involved in any incident or whose property is involved in an incident” is entitled to records that might otherwise be closed, including an accident report, “for purposes of investigation of any civil claim or defense.” This includes the individual’s lawyer, insurance company, or close family member. Section 610.100.4, RSMo. See also Question 4, below.
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Under what circumstances can a police agency deny access to police reports that might otherwise be open?
Sections 610.100.3 and 610.100.4, RSMo, state that the agency has the authority to withhold the disclosure of records that may otherwise be subject to disclosure under two circumstances. First, if the agency has an articulable concern over the safety of a victim, witness, or other person if the record is revealed. Second, disclosure is not necessary if the criminal investigation is likely to be jeopardized. However, the agency may need court approval for withholding this information.
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Is an employer entitled to closed criminal records of a prospective employee?
Under § 610.120, RSMo, a number of employers (including police agencies) are entitled to closed records for employment purposes. This section also states that the defendant can also have access to his or her closed records. Therefore, a prospective employee can allow other prospective employers to access those closed records, if a proper waiver is signed.
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Can a criminal defendant access police records related to his pending case under the Sunshine Law?
No. Attorney General Opinion No. 200-94 states that if criminal charges are filed, disclosures of police reports should occur under the applicable Rules of Criminal Procedure promulgated by the Missouri Supreme Court. As a result, the defendant is generally required to seek his disclosures from the prosecuting attorney and not the law enforcement agencies directly.
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How detailed must an incident report be in describing the “immediate facts and circumstances” of the crime or incident?
An incident report provides the general public with only the most basic information about each incident to which the law enforcement agency is called to respond. In some cases, it may be sufficient to describe the incident as a “vehicle accident” or “domestic assault,” but in other situations more detail may be appropriate.
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What information is available from a 911 call?
The information that is generally available or open regarding a 911 call is the “incident information” – the date, time, specific location, and immediate facts and circumstances of the call. The recording is inaccessible to the public. Section 610.150, RSMo.
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Are closed records to be destroyed?
No, as a general rule, closed records are to be retained but made inaccessible to the public. Section 610.120, RSMo.
Missouri Sunshine Law.
Law Enforcement
Should a juvenile’s name be redacted from a police report before being released pursuant to a Sunshine Law request?
Section 610.100, RSMo, does not directly address the names of juveniles, but another statute that should be considered is § 211.321.3, RSMo, which states: “Peace officers’ records. . . of children . . . shall not be open to inspection or their contents disclosed, except by order of the court.”
[ back to top ]
Are criminal records related to a case with a suspended imposition of sentence open or closed records?
If an individual receives a suspended imposition of sentence (SIS), the records are open during the period of probation. Once the individual successfully completes the period of probation, the records are then closed. Section 610.105, RSMo.
[ back to top ]
Are motorists involved in automobile accidents entitled to an accident report, even if the case is under review with the prosecutor about pending charges?
Generally, a person who was “involved in any incident or whose property is involved in an incident” is entitled to records that might otherwise be closed, including an accident report, “for purposes of investigation of any civil claim or defense.” This includes the individual’s lawyer, insurance company, or close family member. Section 610.100.4, RSMo. See also Question 4, below.
[ back to top ]
Under what circumstances can a police agency deny access to police reports that might otherwise be open?
Sections 610.100.3 and 610.100.4, RSMo, state that the agency has the authority to withhold the disclosure of records that may otherwise be subject to disclosure under two circumstances. First, if the agency has an articulable concern over the safety of a victim, witness, or other person if the record is revealed. Second, disclosure is not necessary if the criminal investigation is likely to be jeopardized. However, the agency may need court approval for withholding this information.
[ back to top ]
Is an employer entitled to closed criminal records of a prospective employee?
Under § 610.120, RSMo, a number of employers (including police agencies) are entitled to closed records for employment purposes. This section also states that the defendant can also have access to his or her closed records. Therefore, a prospective employee can allow other prospective employers to access those closed records, if a proper waiver is signed.
[ back to top ]
Can a criminal defendant access police records related to his pending case under the Sunshine Law?
No. Attorney General Opinion No. 200-94 states that if criminal charges are filed, disclosures of police reports should occur under the applicable Rules of Criminal Procedure promulgated by the Missouri Supreme Court. As a result, the defendant is generally required to seek his disclosures from the prosecuting attorney and not the law enforcement agencies directly.
[ back to top ]
How detailed must an incident report be in describing the “immediate facts and circumstances” of the crime or incident?
An incident report provides the general public with only the most basic information about each incident to which the law enforcement agency is called to respond. In some cases, it may be sufficient to describe the incident as a “vehicle accident” or “domestic assault,” but in other situations more detail may be appropriate.
[ back to top ]
What information is available from a 911 call?
The information that is generally available or open regarding a 911 call is the “incident information” – the date, time, specific location, and immediate facts and circumstances of the call. The recording is inaccessible to the public. Section 610.150, RSMo.
[ back to top ]
Are closed records to be destroyed?
No, as a general rule, closed records are to be retained but made inaccessible to the public. Section 610.120, RSMo.
Missouri Sunshine Law.
Law Enforcement
Should a juvenile’s name be redacted from a police report before being released pursuant to a Sunshine Law request?
Section 610.100, RSMo, does not directly address the names of juveniles, but another statute that should be considered is § 211.321.3, RSMo, which states: “Peace officers’ records. . . of children . . . shall not be open to inspection or their contents disclosed, except by order of the court.”
[ back to top ]
Are criminal records related to a case with a suspended imposition of sentence open or closed records?
If an individual receives a suspended imposition of sentence (SIS), the records are open during the period of probation. Once the individual successfully completes the period of probation, the records are then closed. Section 610.105, RSMo.
[ back to top ]
Are motorists involved in automobile accidents entitled to an accident report, even if the case is under review with the prosecutor about pending charges?
Generally, a person who was “involved in any incident or whose property is involved in an incident” is entitled to records that might otherwise be closed, including an accident report, “for purposes of investigation of any civil claim or defense.” This includes the individual’s lawyer, insurance company, or close family member. Section 610.100.4, RSMo. See also Question 4, below.
[ back to top ]
Under what circumstances can a police agency deny access to police reports that might otherwise be open?
Sections 610.100.3 and 610.100.4, RSMo, state that the agency has the authority to withhold the disclosure of records that may otherwise be subject to disclosure under two circumstances. First, if the agency has an articulable concern over the safety of a victim, witness, or other person if the record is revealed. Second, disclosure is not necessary if the criminal investigation is likely to be jeopardized. However, the agency may need court approval for withholding this information.
[ back to top ]
Is an employer entitled to closed criminal records of a prospective employee?
Under § 610.120, RSMo, a number of employers (including police agencies) are entitled to closed records for employment purposes. This section also states that the defendant can also have access to his or her closed records. Therefore, a prospective employee can allow other prospective employers to access those closed records, if a proper waiver is signed.
[ back to top ]
Can a criminal defendant access police records related to his pending case under the Sunshine Law?
No. Attorney General Opinion No. 200-94 states that if criminal charges are filed, disclosures of police reports should occur under the applicable Rules of Criminal Procedure promulgated by the Missouri Supreme Court. As a result, the defendant is generally required to seek his disclosures from the prosecuting attorney and not the law enforcement agencies directly.
[ back to top ]
How detailed must an incident report be in describing the “immediate facts and circumstances” of the crime or incident?
An incident report provides the general public with only the most basic information about each incident to which the law enforcement agency is called to respond. In some cases, it may be sufficient to describe the incident as a “vehicle accident” or “domestic assault,” but in other situations more detail may be appropriate.
[ back to top ]
What information is available from a 911 call?
The information that is generally available or open regarding a 911 call is the “incident information” – the date, time, specific location, and immediate facts and circumstances of the call. The recording is inaccessible to the public. Section 610.150, RSMo.
[ back to top ]
Are closed records to be destroyed?
No, as a general rule, closed records are to be retained but made inaccessible to the public. Section 610.120, RSMo.
Missouri Sunshine Law.
Law Enforcement
Should a juvenile’s name be redacted from a police report before being released pursuant to a Sunshine Law request?
Section 610.100, RSMo, does not directly address the names of juveniles, but another statute that should be considered is § 211.321.3, RSMo, which states: “Peace officers’ records. . . of children . . . shall not be open to inspection or their contents disclosed, except by order of the court.”
[ back to top ]
Are criminal records related to a case with a suspended imposition of sentence open or closed records?
If an individual receives a suspended imposition of sentence (SIS), the records are open during the period of probation. Once the individual successfully completes the period of probation, the records are then closed. Section 610.105, RSMo.
[ back to top ]
Are motorists involved in automobile accidents entitled to an accident report, even if the case is under review with the prosecutor about pending charges?
Generally, a person who was “involved in any incident or whose property is involved in an incident” is entitled to records that might otherwise be closed, including an accident report, “for purposes of investigation of any civil claim or defense.” This includes the individual’s lawyer, insurance company, or close family member. Section 610.100.4, RSMo. See also Question 4, below.
[ back to top ]
Under what circumstances can a police agency deny access to police reports that might otherwise be open?
Sections 610.100.3 and 610.100.4, RSMo, state that the agency has the authority to withhold the disclosure of records that may otherwise be subject to disclosure under two circumstances. First, if the agency has an articulable concern over the safety of a victim, witness, or other person if the record is revealed. Second, disclosure is not necessary if the criminal investigation is likely to be jeopardized. However, the agency may need court approval for withholding this information.
[ back to top ]
Is an employer entitled to closed criminal records of a prospective employee?
Under § 610.120, RSMo, a number of employers (including police agencies) are entitled to closed records for employment purposes. This section also states that the defendant can also have access to his or her closed records. Therefore, a prospective employee can allow other prospective employers to access those closed records, if a proper waiver is signed.
[ back to top ]
Can a criminal defendant access police records related to his pending case under the Sunshine Law?
No. Attorney General Opinion No. 200-94 states that if criminal charges are filed, disclosures of police reports should occur under the applicable Rules of Criminal Procedure promulgated by the Missouri Supreme Court. As a result, the defendant is generally required to seek his disclosures from the prosecuting attorney and not the law enforcement agencies directly.
[ back to top ]
How detailed must an incident report be in describing the “immediate facts and circumstances” of the crime or incident?
An incident report provides the general public with only the most basic information about each incident to which the law enforcement agency is called to respond. In some cases, it may be sufficient to describe the incident as a “vehicle accident” or “domestic assault,” but in other situations more detail may be appropriate.
[ back to top ]
What information is available from a 911 call?
The information that is generally available or open regarding a 911 call is the “incident information” – the date, time, specific location, and immediate facts and circumstances of the call. The recording is inaccessible to the public. Section 610.150, RSMo.
[ back to top ]
Are closed records to be destroyed?
No, as a general rule, closed records are to be retained but made inaccessible to the public. Section 610.120, RSMo.
Missouri Sunshine Law.
Law Enforcement
Should a juvenile’s name be redacted from a police report before being released pursuant to a Sunshine Law request?
Section 610.100, RSMo, does not directly address the names of juveniles, but another statute that should be considered is § 211.321.3, RSMo, which states: “Peace officers’ records. . . of children . . . shall not be open to inspection or their contents disclosed, except by order of the court.”
[ back to top ]
Are criminal records related to a case with a suspended imposition of sentence open or closed records?
If an individual receives a suspended imposition of sentence (SIS), the records are open during the period of probation. Once the individual successfully completes the period of probation, the records are then closed. Section 610.105, RSMo.
[ back to top ]
Are motorists involved in automobile accidents entitled to an accident report, even if the case is under review with the prosecutor about pending charges?
Generally, a person who was “involved in any incident or whose property is involved in an incident” is entitled to records that might otherwise be closed, including an accident report, “for purposes of investigation of any civil claim or defense.” This includes the individual’s lawyer, insurance company, or close family member. Section 610.100.4, RSMo. See also Question 4, below.
[ back to top ]
Under what circumstances can a police agency deny access to police reports that might otherwise be open?
Sections 610.100.3 and 610.100.4, RSMo, state that the agency has the authority to withhold the disclosure of records that may otherwise be subject to disclosure under two circumstances. First, if the agency has an articulable concern over the safety of a victim, witness, or other person if the record is revealed. Second, disclosure is not necessary if the criminal investigation is likely to be jeopardized. However, the agency may need court approval for withholding this information.
[ back to top ]
Is an employer entitled to closed criminal records of a prospective employee?
Under § 610.120, RSMo, a number of employers (including police agencies) are entitled to closed records for employment purposes. This section also states that the defendant can also have access to his or her closed records. Therefore, a prospective employee can allow other prospective employers to access those closed records, if a proper waiver is signed.
[ back to top ]
Can a criminal defendant access police records related to his pending case under the Sunshine Law?
No. Attorney General Opinion No. 200-94 states that if criminal charges are filed, disclosures of police reports should occur under the applicable Rules of Criminal Procedure promulgated by the Missouri Supreme Court. As a result, the defendant is generally required to seek his disclosures from the prosecuting attorney and not the law enforcement agencies directly.
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How detailed must an incident report be in describing the “immediate facts and circumstances” of the crime or incident?
An incident report provides the general public with only the most basic information about each incident to which the law enforcement agency is called to respond. In some cases, it may be sufficient to describe the incident as a “vehicle accident” or “domestic assault,” but in other situations more detail may be appropriate.
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What information is available from a 911 call?
The information that is generally available or open regarding a 911 call is the “incident information” – the date, time, specific location, and immediate facts and circumstances of the call. The recording is inaccessible to the public. Section 610.150, RSMo.
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Are closed records to be destroyed?
No, as a general rule, closed records are to be retained but made inaccessible to the public. Section 610.120, RSMo.
Here short list of misconduct from Los Angeles Police Department. Only reason show this thing like take place so much does even get news cable cover age in more. Infact happen so much there is even report any more on cable news.
On September 4, 1988, LAPD officers raided the home of Roger Guydon looking for drugs. They found nothing. In 1991, Guydon won a $760,000 lawsuit against the city.[123][124]
In 1991, just prior to the highly public Rodney King beating, the department came under fire for brutality. One suspect, Michael Allen, was forced to lie on the ground. After verbally assaulting officers, Allen was struck, while in handcuffs, on the back of the head with a flashlight, causing Allen to go blind in one eye. After Allen had been completely subdued, officers shocked Allen with a taser.[125]
On 12 October 1996, LAPD Officers Rafael Pérez and Nino Durden entered the apartment of Javier Ovando. They shot the man in the back, paralyzing him from the waist down. They then planted a gun on the unarmed man to make it appear he had attacked them. The two officers then perjured themselves. Ovando was sentenced to 23 years in custody based on their testimony. Later one of the officers admitted his crime. Ovando was released and in 2000 paid $15 million for his injuries and imprisonment.[100]
In 2008, Officer Russell Mecano offered to not arrest a woman in exchange for sex, and offered cash to another woman in exchange for sex. He was convicted and sentenced to more than 8 years.[126]
In 2012, detective Stephanie Lazarus was sentenced to at least 27 years in prison for murdering a woman in 1986. The murder was covered up and only solved with DNA evidence.[127]
In July and August 2012, two suspects were injured and one suspect was killed during arrest actions undertaken by LAPD officers.
On July 22, 2012, Alesia Thomas an African American, mentally disabled single mother died in the back of a police car after being kicked in the genitals, taken to the ground, hogtied and stuffed into the back of a police car by officers [128] in the course of an arrest on suspicion of child endangerment after leaving her children in front of LAPD’s Southeast station.[128]
On August 18, 2012, Ronald Weekley, Jr., a college student, was punched in the face while handcuffed on the ground after being stopped for riding his skateboard on the wrong side of the street.[129]
On August 21, 2012, Michelle Jordan, a registered nurse, was repeatedly thrown to the ground in the course of being arrested after being pulled over for holding her cell phone while driving.[129]
As a result of these events, on September 1, 2012, civil rights activists requested an emergency meeting with LAPD Chief Charlie Beck to review arrest and use-of-force policies.[130]
On February 7, 2013, the LAPD was involved in what Chief Charlie Beck called, “…a case of mistaken identity.”[131] During the manhunt for suspected murderer and fired LAPD officer, Christopher Dorner, the LAPD and the Torrance Police Department fired upon pickup trucks at two separate locations, believing them to be Dorner. The first incident took place on the 19500 Block of Redbeam Avenue. LAPD officers fired numerous shots into the back of a blue pickup truck, allegedly without warning and injured the two women inside. The second incident, twenty-five minutes later, involved the Torrance Police shooting into the windshield of another pickup truck, narrowly missing the driver. In both cases the victims were not involved with the Dorner case.[132] The Dorner case itself involved allegations of impropriety by other LAPD officers, as Dorner alleged that he had been fired for reporting brutality by his training officer. The manhunt had been triggered by Dorner’s alleged attacks against LAPD and ex-LAPD personnel. In 2013, the city agreed to pay $4.2 million to settle the matter.[133]
Here short list of misconduct from Los Angeles Police Department. Only reason show this thing like take place so much does even get news cable cover age in more. Infact happen so much there is even report any more on cable news.
On September 4, 1988, LAPD officers raided the home of Roger Guydon looking for drugs. They found nothing. In 1991, Guydon won a $760,000 lawsuit against the city.[123][124]
In 1991, just prior to the highly public Rodney King beating, the department came under fire for brutality. One suspect, Michael Allen, was forced to lie on the ground. After verbally assaulting officers, Allen was struck, while in handcuffs, on the back of the head with a flashlight, causing Allen to go blind in one eye. After Allen had been completely subdued, officers shocked Allen with a taser.[125]
On 12 October 1996, LAPD Officers Rafael Pérez and Nino Durden entered the apartment of Javier Ovando. They shot the man in the back, paralyzing him from the waist down. They then planted a gun on the unarmed man to make it appear he had attacked them. The two officers then perjured themselves. Ovando was sentenced to 23 years in custody based on their testimony. Later one of the officers admitted his crime. Ovando was released and in 2000 paid $15 million for his injuries and imprisonment.[100]
In 2008, Officer Russell Mecano offered to not arrest a woman in exchange for sex, and offered cash to another woman in exchange for sex. He was convicted and sentenced to more than 8 years.[126]
In 2012, detective Stephanie Lazarus was sentenced to at least 27 years in prison for murdering a woman in 1986. The murder was covered up and only solved with DNA evidence.[127]
In July and August 2012, two suspects were injured and one suspect was killed during arrest actions undertaken by LAPD officers.
On July 22, 2012, Alesia Thomas an African American, mentally disabled single mother died in the back of a police car after being kicked in the genitals, taken to the ground, hogtied and stuffed into the back of a police car by officers [128] in the course of an arrest on suspicion of child endangerment after leaving her children in front of LAPD’s Southeast station.[128]
On August 18, 2012, Ronald Weekley, Jr., a college student, was punched in the face while handcuffed on the ground after being stopped for riding his skateboard on the wrong side of the street.[129]
On August 21, 2012, Michelle Jordan, a registered nurse, was repeatedly thrown to the ground in the course of being arrested after being pulled over for holding her cell phone while driving.[129]
As a result of these events, on September 1, 2012, civil rights activists requested an emergency meeting with LAPD Chief Charlie Beck to review arrest and use-of-force policies.[130]
On February 7, 2013, the LAPD was involved in what Chief Charlie Beck called, “…a case of mistaken identity.”[131] During the manhunt for suspected murderer and fired LAPD officer, Christopher Dorner, the LAPD and the Torrance Police Department fired upon pickup trucks at two separate locations, believing them to be Dorner. The first incident took place on the 19500 Block of Redbeam Avenue. LAPD officers fired numerous shots into the back of a blue pickup truck, allegedly without warning and injured the two women inside. The second incident, twenty-five minutes later, involved the Torrance Police shooting into the windshield of another pickup truck, narrowly missing the driver. In both cases the victims were not involved with the Dorner case.[132] The Dorner case itself involved allegations of impropriety by other LAPD officers, as Dorner alleged that he had been fired for reporting brutality by his training officer. The manhunt had been triggered by Dorner’s alleged attacks against LAPD and ex-LAPD personnel. In 2013, the city agreed to pay $4.2 million to settle the matter.[133]
Sent some well ask what controversies has police been well here list below. This last list because all most ever police department in USA has list all can look up on internet.
On October 5, 2010, Phoenix Police Officer Richard Chrisman, who was responding to a call of a domestic disturbance, entered a mobile home in which Danny Rodriguez lived. Witnesses say that after Rodriguez confronted Chrisman saying that he needed a warrant to enter the home, Chrisman then put his service pistol to Rodriguez’s head and yelled “I don’t need a warrant, motherfucker”. Court papers then say that an argument ensued, and at some point officers used both tasers and pepper spray on Rodriguez. Some time after this, Chrisman then shot the family’s dog, and in a scuffle over a bike, shot and killed an unarmed Rodriguez. Chrisman, initially arrested on aggravated assault, has since been charged with second degree murder in the death of Danny Rodriguez.[11]
In August 2011, Officer Jeffrey Gordon was suspended from his job for four days for touching a female city worker inappropriately. The incident received attention in the press as the policeman was the son of Mayor Phil Gordon.[12]
In September 2011, Officer Jason A. Brooks beat a handcuffed suspect. He resigned from the department and in July 2012 pleaded guilty to a single charge of disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a day on parole. [13]
In July 2012, press reports indicated that Sergeant Arnold Davis was caught on a video camera stealing thousands of dollars from a business while he was there on official business. Davis, represented by a lawyer from the Phoenix Police Sergeants and Lieutenants Association began negotiating an early retirement to avoid criminal charges. [14]
In August, 2012, Detective Christopher J. Wilson resigned from the department when he was accused of ten counts of sex with underaged boys. Wilson pleaded not guilty to the charges. [15]
In December 2012, Detective George Contreras pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge that he made false reports concerning after-hours security he work for which he was paid, but that he never did. He was ordered to pay over $6, 000 to groups he had defrauded. Contreras resigned from the department before his court appearance.
Sent some well ask what controversies has police been well here list below. This last list because all most ever police department in USA has list all can look up on internet.
On October 5, 2010, Phoenix Police Officer Richard Chrisman, who was responding to a call of a domestic disturbance, entered a mobile home in which Danny Rodriguez lived. Witnesses say that after Rodriguez confronted Chrisman saying that he needed a warrant to enter the home, Chrisman then put his service pistol to Rodriguez’s head and yelled “I don’t need a warrant, motherfucker”. Court papers then say that an argument ensued, and at some point officers used both tasers and pepper spray on Rodriguez. Some time after this, Chrisman then shot the family’s dog, and in a scuffle over a bike, shot and killed an unarmed Rodriguez. Chrisman, initially arrested on aggravated assault, has since been charged with second degree murder in the death of Danny Rodriguez.[11]
In August 2011, Officer Jeffrey Gordon was suspended from his job for four days for touching a female city worker inappropriately. The incident received attention in the press as the policeman was the son of Mayor Phil Gordon.[12]
In September 2011, Officer Jason A. Brooks beat a handcuffed suspect. He resigned from the department and in July 2012 pleaded guilty to a single charge of disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a day on parole. [13]
In July 2012, press reports indicated that Sergeant Arnold Davis was caught on a video camera stealing thousands of dollars from a business while he was there on official business. Davis, represented by a lawyer from the Phoenix Police Sergeants and Lieutenants Association began negotiating an early retirement to avoid criminal charges. [14]
In August, 2012, Detective Christopher J. Wilson resigned from the department when he was accused of ten counts of sex with underaged boys. Wilson pleaded not guilty to the charges. [15]
In December 2012, Detective George Contreras pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge that he made false reports concerning after-hours security he work for which he was paid, but that he never did. He was ordered to pay over $6, 000 to groups he had defrauded. Contreras resigned from the department before his court appearance.
Sent some well ask what controversies has police been well here list below. This last list because all most ever police department in USA has list all can look up on internet.
On October 5, 2010, Phoenix Police Officer Richard Chrisman, who was responding to a call of a domestic disturbance, entered a mobile home in which Danny Rodriguez lived. Witnesses say that after Rodriguez confronted Chrisman saying that he needed a warrant to enter the home, Chrisman then put his service pistol to Rodriguez’s head and yelled “I don’t need a warrant, motherfucker”. Court papers then say that an argument ensued, and at some point officers used both tasers and pepper spray on Rodriguez. Some time after this, Chrisman then shot the family’s dog, and in a scuffle over a bike, shot and killed an unarmed Rodriguez. Chrisman, initially arrested on aggravated assault, has since been charged with second degree murder in the death of Danny Rodriguez.[11]
In August 2011, Officer Jeffrey Gordon was suspended from his job for four days for touching a female city worker inappropriately. The incident received attention in the press as the policeman was the son of Mayor Phil Gordon.[12]
In September 2011, Officer Jason A. Brooks beat a handcuffed suspect. He resigned from the department and in July 2012 pleaded guilty to a single charge of disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a day on parole. [13]
In July 2012, press reports indicated that Sergeant Arnold Davis was caught on a video camera stealing thousands of dollars from a business while he was there on official business. Davis, represented by a lawyer from the Phoenix Police Sergeants and Lieutenants Association began negotiating an early retirement to avoid criminal charges. [14]
In August, 2012, Detective Christopher J. Wilson resigned from the department when he was accused of ten counts of sex with underaged boys. Wilson pleaded not guilty to the charges. [15]
In December 2012, Detective George Contreras pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge that he made false reports concerning after-hours security he work for which he was paid, but that he never did. He was ordered to pay over $6, 000 to groups he had defrauded. Contreras resigned from the department before his court appearance.
Sent some well ask what controversies has police been well here list below. This last list because all most ever police department in USA has list all can look up on internet.
On October 5, 2010, Phoenix Police Officer Richard Chrisman, who was responding to a call of a domestic disturbance, entered a mobile home in which Danny Rodriguez lived. Witnesses say that after Rodriguez confronted Chrisman saying that he needed a warrant to enter the home, Chrisman then put his service pistol to Rodriguez’s head and yelled “I don’t need a warrant, motherfucker”. Court papers then say that an argument ensued, and at some point officers used both tasers and pepper spray on Rodriguez. Some time after this, Chrisman then shot the family’s dog, and in a scuffle over a bike, shot and killed an unarmed Rodriguez. Chrisman, initially arrested on aggravated assault, has since been charged with second degree murder in the death of Danny Rodriguez.[11]
In August 2011, Officer Jeffrey Gordon was suspended from his job for four days for touching a female city worker inappropriately. The incident received attention in the press as the policeman was the son of Mayor Phil Gordon.[12]
In September 2011, Officer Jason A. Brooks beat a handcuffed suspect. He resigned from the department and in July 2012 pleaded guilty to a single charge of disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a day on parole. [13]
In July 2012, press reports indicated that Sergeant Arnold Davis was caught on a video camera stealing thousands of dollars from a business while he was there on official business. Davis, represented by a lawyer from the Phoenix Police Sergeants and Lieutenants Association began negotiating an early retirement to avoid criminal charges. [14]
In August, 2012, Detective Christopher J. Wilson resigned from the department when he was accused of ten counts of sex with underaged boys. Wilson pleaded not guilty to the charges. [15]
In December 2012, Detective George Contreras pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge that he made false reports concerning after-hours security he work for which he was paid, but that he never did. He was ordered to pay over $6, 000 to groups he had defrauded. Contreras resigned from the department before his court appearance.
Sent some well ask what controversies has police been well here list below. This last list because all most ever police department in USA has list all can look up on internet.
On October 5, 2010, Phoenix Police Officer Richard Chrisman, who was responding to a call of a domestic disturbance, entered a mobile home in which Danny Rodriguez lived. Witnesses say that after Rodriguez confronted Chrisman saying that he needed a warrant to enter the home, Chrisman then put his service pistol to Rodriguez’s head and yelled “I don’t need a warrant, motherfucker”. Court papers then say that an argument ensued, and at some point officers used both tasers and pepper spray on Rodriguez. Some time after this, Chrisman then shot the family’s dog, and in a scuffle over a bike, shot and killed an unarmed Rodriguez. Chrisman, initially arrested on aggravated assault, has since been charged with second degree murder in the death of Danny Rodriguez.[11]
In August 2011, Officer Jeffrey Gordon was suspended from his job for four days for touching a female city worker inappropriately. The incident received attention in the press as the policeman was the son of Mayor Phil Gordon.[12]
In September 2011, Officer Jason A. Brooks beat a handcuffed suspect. He resigned from the department and in July 2012 pleaded guilty to a single charge of disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a day on parole. [13]
In July 2012, press reports indicated that Sergeant Arnold Davis was caught on a video camera stealing thousands of dollars from a business while he was there on official business. Davis, represented by a lawyer from the Phoenix Police Sergeants and Lieutenants Association began negotiating an early retirement to avoid criminal charges. [14]
In August, 2012, Detective Christopher J. Wilson resigned from the department when he was accused of ten counts of sex with underaged boys. Wilson pleaded not guilty to the charges. [15]
In December 2012, Detective George Contreras pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge that he made false reports concerning after-hours security he work for which he was paid, but that he never did. He was ordered to pay over $6, 000 to groups he had defrauded. Contreras resigned from the department before his court appearance.
Patrick, do you have some point to make with your last couple of posts? If so, what would it be? How is it relevant to the topic under discussion?
Patrick, do you have some point to make with your last couple of posts? If so, what would it be? How is it relevant to the topic under discussion?
Yes does Mas events like Ferguson take place all over country ignoring issue that take place what caused issues happen in Ferguson. My last post prove with out doubt events happen in Ferguson have taken place in very city list above still happens. Infact happen so many time did want bore ever body buying list ever city has happen. Want proof point does matter if policemen in Ferguson Los Angeles Phoenix have untarnished record when take part events like those list above. Notice most events list above Mas are not ever old events. Most those event take place in last five years. Mas here story proves my point there events happen all the time. The Scottsdale police officer who shot and killed a man holding a baby Tuesday has been involved in seven shootings since 2002, six of them fatal, police said Wednesday.
Officer James Peters shot 50-year-old John Loxas on Tuesday evening after police were called to a house in the 7700 block of East Garfield Street, near Hayden and McKellips roads. Neighbors had called 911 earlier and said Loxas had threatened them with a handgun.
Peters, a former member of the department’s SWAT team, was one of six officers who responded to the call. The 12-year police veteran is on administrative leave, which is standard after any police shooting, said Sgt. Mark Clark, a Scottsdale police spokesman.
According to the 911 call, the neighbors said Loxas was pushing his 9-month-old grandsonin a stroller and walked over and kicked a neighbor’s trash can into the street. When another neighbor went to pick it up, Loxas returned with the baby in his arms and started yelling, “You got a problem with that?” the caller tells the dispatcher. “The guy pulls out a gun, cocks it and aimed it at him.”
When officers arrived, Loxas had returned to his house, but came to the door with the baby in his arms, police said. Peters and another officer told investigators that they saw a black object in Loxas’ hand. Loxas turned to go back inside when Peters, who was standing 18 feet away at the edge of the driveway, shot him in the head with his patrol rifle, police said.
“(Loxas) was holding the baby in his left arm in front of his upper body and face. Moments later, he reached down to his right, lowering the baby, clearly exposing his head and upper body. Officer Peters responded to the movement with a single shot (to) the suspect’s head. The suspect fell to the ground and the baby was rescued by officers. The suspect died instantly,” Clark said.
Peters “felt he had to prevent him from re-entering the house,” Clark said. “The intent was to rescue the baby.” Investigators later determined that Loxas was not carrying a gun but had a cellphone in his pants pocket.
A search warrant recovered a loaded pistol “a few feet from where the suspect fell inside the residence,” Clark said. “It was wedged between the arm and cushion of a chair a few feet away from where he fell.” It is the same pistol believed to have been used to threaten neighbors, he said. A loaded shotgun also was found near a chair a few feet from the pistol, Clark said. In addition, police found at least eight “Airsoft” type rifles and pistols, as well as “a functional improvised explosive device,” he said.
Loxas lived in the house alone and babysat his grandson often, police said. The home was filled with garbage and clutter and a city inspector determined the home to be uninhabitable Wednesday, Clark said.
In 2010, Scottsdale police were called to the house because Loxas was threatening neighbors with a pistol, police said. He has been arrested at least once, police said. The 911 caller told the dispatcher that this wasn’t the first time that Loxas had pointed a gun at neighbors.
On Wednesday, several neighbors said that house parties were frequently held at the man’s home, often lasting until 3 a.m. or later. Residents of two nearby homes said they had filed noise complaints with police.
Scottsdale police Chief Alan Rodbell said he is confident that the external review by legal experts will “leave the community with the same sense of confidence that I have in my officers, my detectives and oversight in this very serious incident.”
Lyle Mann, executive director of the Arizona Peace Officers and Training Board, a state law enforcement panel, said that he couldn’t comment specifically about Peters, because he didn’t know the circumstances of the seven shootings. But he said “some are functions of assignment.”
“If you are out chasing armed felons every day, there’s the probability that they’re going to be bad people. While it feels like it clearly is an anomaly in terms of this person being involved in this many discharges, I wouldn’t read anything into that,” Mann said.
Each of Peters’ previous shootings have been determined justified through an internal investigation as well as an external investigation by the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office.
Peters’ previous fatal shooting occurred in March 2010, when Peters shot and killed a man suspected in a string of bank robberies. At the time, The Republic reported that the city had settled in 2009 with the family of one of the people involved in a different fatal shooting for $75,000 but denied liability.
In another case, Peters was honored for his actions in responding to a hostage situation and the hostage thanked the officer for saving his life and shooting the suspect.
Peters also was involved in these previous shooting incidents, police confirmed:
Nov. 3, 2002: Peters was one of three SWAT officers who fired at Albert Redford after a nearly four-hour standoff at his north Scottsdale home. Officers had been called out for a report of domestic violence. Officers fired a total of seven shots, striking Redford three times.
March 25, 2003: Peters shot and killed disbarred lawyer Brent Bradshaw, 47, of Scottsdale. Officers responded to shotgun blasts at Bradshaw’s home. Three hours later, police found Bradshaw wandering along the Arizona Canal at Miller and Chaparral roads, carrying a shotgun. Officers tried unsuccessfully to get him to put down the gun.
Oct. 10, 2005: Peters shot and killed Mark Wesley Smith, a burglary suspect, during a confrontation outside an auto-body shop near Hayden and McKellips roads. Smith was smashing car windows in a rage outside the body shop. Autopsy reports would later show that he was high on methamphetamine.
April 23, 2006: Peters shot and killed Brian Daniel Brown, 28, who took a Safeway employee hostage after he hijacked a Krispy Kreme delivery truck in Peoria. Peters received a Medal of Valor for this incident in June 2007.
Aug. 30, 2006: Peters and Officer Tom Myers fatally shot Kevin Hutchings after Hutchings fired at least one round at police outside his northeast Mesa home. Scottsdale police were trying to contact Hutchings about a Scottsdale assault earlier that evening with a longtime acquaintance of Hutchings. Hutchings’ family sued the city and eventually settled out of court for the $75,000, city officials said.
Feb. 17, 2010, Peters and Scottsdale Detective Scott Galbraith shot Jimmy Hammack Jr., 46, after Hammack drove his truck toward detectives who were investigating him as a suspect in three Scottsdale bank robberies and two in Phoenix. Hammack later died from his injuries.
This is the second time in less than three weeks that a Scottsdale police officer shot and killed a man.
On Jan. 28, Jason Edward Prostrollo, 25, was shot dead after officers were called to the north Scottsdale home of Prostrollo’s acquaintances. Police were called in the early morning by a 35-year-old woman saying Prostrollo, a guest in her home, was drunk and fighting with her 50-year-old boyfriend, and had a knife.
Prostrollo, a former Marine with two tours of duties in Iraq, came out of the house with pieces of a pool cue in each hand, police said. He ignored commands to drop the cues and stop walking, police said. A K-9 officer released his dog and a bite from the dog didn’t deter Prostrollo, who kept walking toward officers. That’s when Lt. Ron Bayne shot Prostrollo and killed him.
Prostrollo’s family and friends have questioned the police department’s use of lethal
Yes does Mas events like Ferguson take place all over country ignoring issue that take place what caused issues happen in Ferguson. My last post prove with out doubt events happen in Ferguson have taken place in very city list above still happens. Infact happen so many time did want bore ever body buying list ever city has happen. Want proof point does matter if policemen in Ferguson Los Angeles Phoenix have untarnished record when take part events like those list above. Notice most events list above Mas are not ever old events. Most those event take place in last five years. Mas here story proves my point there events happen all the time. The Scottsdale police officer who shot and killed a man holding a baby Tuesday has been involved in seven shootings since 2002, six of them fatal, police said Wednesday.
Officer James Peters shot 50-year-old John Loxas on Tuesday evening after police were called to a house in the 7700 block of East Garfield Street, near Hayden and McKellips roads. Neighbors had called 911 earlier and said Loxas had threatened them with a handgun.
Peters, a former member of the department’s SWAT team, was one of six officers who responded to the call. The 12-year police veteran is on administrative leave, which is standard after any police shooting, said Sgt. Mark Clark, a Scottsdale police spokesman.
According to the 911 call, the neighbors said Loxas was pushing his 9-month-old grandsonin a stroller and walked over and kicked a neighbor’s trash can into the street. When another neighbor went to pick it up, Loxas returned with the baby in his arms and started yelling, “You got a problem with that?” the caller tells the dispatcher. “The guy pulls out a gun, cocks it and aimed it at him.”
When officers arrived, Loxas had returned to his house, but came to the door with the baby in his arms, police said. Peters and another officer told investigators that they saw a black object in Loxas’ hand. Loxas turned to go back inside when Peters, who was standing 18 feet away at the edge of the driveway, shot him in the head with his patrol rifle, police said.
“(Loxas) was holding the baby in his left arm in front of his upper body and face. Moments later, he reached down to his right, lowering the baby, clearly exposing his head and upper body. Officer Peters responded to the movement with a single shot (to) the suspect’s head. The suspect fell to the ground and the baby was rescued by officers. The suspect died instantly,” Clark said.
Peters “felt he had to prevent him from re-entering the house,” Clark said. “The intent was to rescue the baby.” Investigators later determined that Loxas was not carrying a gun but had a cellphone in his pants pocket.
A search warrant recovered a loaded pistol “a few feet from where the suspect fell inside the residence,” Clark said. “It was wedged between the arm and cushion of a chair a few feet away from where he fell.” It is the same pistol believed to have been used to threaten neighbors, he said. A loaded shotgun also was found near a chair a few feet from the pistol, Clark said. In addition, police found at least eight “Airsoft” type rifles and pistols, as well as “a functional improvised explosive device,” he said.
Loxas lived in the house alone and babysat his grandson often, police said. The home was filled with garbage and clutter and a city inspector determined the home to be uninhabitable Wednesday, Clark said.
In 2010, Scottsdale police were called to the house because Loxas was threatening neighbors with a pistol, police said. He has been arrested at least once, police said. The 911 caller told the dispatcher that this wasn’t the first time that Loxas had pointed a gun at neighbors.
On Wednesday, several neighbors said that house parties were frequently held at the man’s home, often lasting until 3 a.m. or later. Residents of two nearby homes said they had filed noise complaints with police.
Scottsdale police Chief Alan Rodbell said he is confident that the external review by legal experts will “leave the community with the same sense of confidence that I have in my officers, my detectives and oversight in this very serious incident.”
Lyle Mann, executive director of the Arizona Peace Officers and Training Board, a state law enforcement panel, said that he couldn’t comment specifically about Peters, because he didn’t know the circumstances of the seven shootings. But he said “some are functions of assignment.”
“If you are out chasing armed felons every day, there’s the probability that they’re going to be bad people. While it feels like it clearly is an anomaly in terms of this person being involved in this many discharges, I wouldn’t read anything into that,” Mann said.
Each of Peters’ previous shootings have been determined justified through an internal investigation as well as an external investigation by the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office.
Peters’ previous fatal shooting occurred in March 2010, when Peters shot and killed a man suspected in a string of bank robberies. At the time, The Republic reported that the city had settled in 2009 with the family of one of the people involved in a different fatal shooting for $75,000 but denied liability.
In another case, Peters was honored for his actions in responding to a hostage situation and the hostage thanked the officer for saving his life and shooting the suspect.
Peters also was involved in these previous shooting incidents, police confirmed:
Nov. 3, 2002: Peters was one of three SWAT officers who fired at Albert Redford after a nearly four-hour standoff at his north Scottsdale home. Officers had been called out for a report of domestic violence. Officers fired a total of seven shots, striking Redford three times.
March 25, 2003: Peters shot and killed disbarred lawyer Brent Bradshaw, 47, of Scottsdale. Officers responded to shotgun blasts at Bradshaw’s home. Three hours later, police found Bradshaw wandering along the Arizona Canal at Miller and Chaparral roads, carrying a shotgun. Officers tried unsuccessfully to get him to put down the gun.
Oct. 10, 2005: Peters shot and killed Mark Wesley Smith, a burglary suspect, during a confrontation outside an auto-body shop near Hayden and McKellips roads. Smith was smashing car windows in a rage outside the body shop. Autopsy reports would later show that he was high on methamphetamine.
April 23, 2006: Peters shot and killed Brian Daniel Brown, 28, who took a Safeway employee hostage after he hijacked a Krispy Kreme delivery truck in Peoria. Peters received a Medal of Valor for this incident in June 2007.
Aug. 30, 2006: Peters and Officer Tom Myers fatally shot Kevin Hutchings after Hutchings fired at least one round at police outside his northeast Mesa home. Scottsdale police were trying to contact Hutchings about a Scottsdale assault earlier that evening with a longtime acquaintance of Hutchings. Hutchings’ family sued the city and eventually settled out of court for the $75,000, city officials said.
Feb. 17, 2010, Peters and Scottsdale Detective Scott Galbraith shot Jimmy Hammack Jr., 46, after Hammack drove his truck toward detectives who were investigating him as a suspect in three Scottsdale bank robberies and two in Phoenix. Hammack later died from his injuries.
This is the second time in less than three weeks that a Scottsdale police officer shot and killed a man.
On Jan. 28, Jason Edward Prostrollo, 25, was shot dead after officers were called to the north Scottsdale home of Prostrollo’s acquaintances. Police were called in the early morning by a 35-year-old woman saying Prostrollo, a guest in her home, was drunk and fighting with her 50-year-old boyfriend, and had a knife.
Prostrollo, a former Marine with two tours of duties in Iraq, came out of the house with pieces of a pool cue in each hand, police said. He ignored commands to drop the cues and stop walking, police said. A K-9 officer released his dog and a bite from the dog didn’t deter Prostrollo, who kept walking toward officers. That’s when Lt. Ron Bayne shot Prostrollo and killed him.
Prostrollo’s family and friends have questioned the police department’s use of lethal
Here event that happen just like Ferguson happen right after Maz. Here date happen Maz August 18, 2014.
The LAPD is up to their old tricks again. Looks like they won the lottery when it comes to not getting negative media attention this time.
With all eyes on Ferguson, Missouri and their police department teargassing and firing rubber bullets at protesters, to the point of where Governor Jay Nixon has declared a state of emergency and imposed a curfew, nobody has focused on the LAPD and their killing of unarmed black people. Everybody’s looking to the right and nobody looks to the left as LAPD does what they have done for years. There’s only so many community activists to go around and so many presidential statements that can be made and news coverage of police shootings, so this is kinda flying under the national radar.
There was a man by the name of Ezell Ford. He was a 24 year old African-American who was gunned down and killed by the LAPD on Monday. He committed the crime of being a black man walking down the street at night. LAPD call this an “investigative stop.” Just like when I’ve been walking down Lankershim Boulevard late at night and because I’m a white man in a shitty neighborhood who must be up to no good, police stop me and demand to see ID. That’s what an “investigative stop” is.
So the LAPD made an investigative stop on Ezell Ford which led to a struggle. What’s the common excuse we hear? Ezell Ford was trying to get the police officer’s gun. He didn’t get the gun. The police officers shot him. That’s it. That’s the details from the LAPD. Suspect struggled, tried to get gun, we shot him.
There have been a few protests, but nothing on the level of what is going on in Ferguson and it is not getting the attention of the media like the Michael Brown shooting has gotten. Ford had a history of mental problems and with the LAPD not having the capacity to deal with this, they simply shot the man and solved their problem.
Here event that happen just like Ferguson happen right after Maz. Here date happen Maz August 18, 2014.
The LAPD is up to their old tricks again. Looks like they won the lottery when it comes to not getting negative media attention this time.
With all eyes on Ferguson, Missouri and their police department teargassing and firing rubber bullets at protesters, to the point of where Governor Jay Nixon has declared a state of emergency and imposed a curfew, nobody has focused on the LAPD and their killing of unarmed black people. Everybody’s looking to the right and nobody looks to the left as LAPD does what they have done for years. There’s only so many community activists to go around and so many presidential statements that can be made and news coverage of police shootings, so this is kinda flying under the national radar.
There was a man by the name of Ezell Ford. He was a 24 year old African-American who was gunned down and killed by the LAPD on Monday. He committed the crime of being a black man walking down the street at night. LAPD call this an “investigative stop.” Just like when I’ve been walking down Lankershim Boulevard late at night and because I’m a white man in a shitty neighborhood who must be up to no good, police stop me and demand to see ID. That’s what an “investigative stop” is.
So the LAPD made an investigative stop on Ezell Ford which led to a struggle. What’s the common excuse we hear? Ezell Ford was trying to get the police officer’s gun. He didn’t get the gun. The police officers shot him. That’s it. That’s the details from the LAPD. Suspect struggled, tried to get gun, we shot him.
There have been a few protests, but nothing on the level of what is going on in Ferguson and it is not getting the attention of the media like the Michael Brown shooting has gotten. Ford had a history of mental problems and with the LAPD not having the capacity to deal with this, they simply shot the man and solved their problem.
Here event that happen just like Ferguson happen right after Maz. Here date happen Maz August 18, 2014.
The LAPD is up to their old tricks again. Looks like they won the lottery when it comes to not getting negative media attention this time.
With all eyes on Ferguson, Missouri and their police department teargassing and firing rubber bullets at protesters, to the point of where Governor Jay Nixon has declared a state of emergency and imposed a curfew, nobody has focused on the LAPD and their killing of unarmed black people. Everybody’s looking to the right and nobody looks to the left as LAPD does what they have done for years. There’s only so many community activists to go around and so many presidential statements that can be made and news coverage of police shootings, so this is kinda flying under the national radar.
There was a man by the name of Ezell Ford. He was a 24 year old African-American who was gunned down and killed by the LAPD on Monday. He committed the crime of being a black man walking down the street at night. LAPD call this an “investigative stop.” Just like when I’ve been walking down Lankershim Boulevard late at night and because I’m a white man in a shitty neighborhood who must be up to no good, police stop me and demand to see ID. That’s what an “investigative stop” is.
So the LAPD made an investigative stop on Ezell Ford which led to a struggle. What’s the common excuse we hear? Ezell Ford was trying to get the police officer’s gun. He didn’t get the gun. The police officers shot him. That’s it. That’s the details from the LAPD. Suspect struggled, tried to get gun, we shot him.
There have been a few protests, but nothing on the level of what is going on in Ferguson and it is not getting the attention of the media like the Michael Brown shooting has gotten. Ford had a history of mental problems and with the LAPD not having the capacity to deal with this, they simply shot the man and solved their problem.
Here event that happen just like Ferguson happen right after Maz. Here date happen Maz August 18, 2014.
The LAPD is up to their old tricks again. Looks like they won the lottery when it comes to not getting negative media attention this time.
With all eyes on Ferguson, Missouri and their police department teargassing and firing rubber bullets at protesters, to the point of where Governor Jay Nixon has declared a state of emergency and imposed a curfew, nobody has focused on the LAPD and their killing of unarmed black people. Everybody’s looking to the right and nobody looks to the left as LAPD does what they have done for years. There’s only so many community activists to go around and so many presidential statements that can be made and news coverage of police shootings, so this is kinda flying under the national radar.
There was a man by the name of Ezell Ford. He was a 24 year old African-American who was gunned down and killed by the LAPD on Monday. He committed the crime of being a black man walking down the street at night. LAPD call this an “investigative stop.” Just like when I’ve been walking down Lankershim Boulevard late at night and because I’m a white man in a shitty neighborhood who must be up to no good, police stop me and demand to see ID. That’s what an “investigative stop” is.
So the LAPD made an investigative stop on Ezell Ford which led to a struggle. What’s the common excuse we hear? Ezell Ford was trying to get the police officer’s gun. He didn’t get the gun. The police officers shot him. That’s it. That’s the details from the LAPD. Suspect struggled, tried to get gun, we shot him.
There have been a few protests, but nothing on the level of what is going on in Ferguson and it is not getting the attention of the media like the Michael Brown shooting has gotten. Ford had a history of mental problems and with the LAPD not having the capacity to deal with this, they simply shot the man and solved their problem.
Maz if wonder makes Ezell Ford event kind same is this facts.
Ezell Ford was well known in the community where he was killed. People knew he was slow, including the LAPD officers that patrolled the area. He wasn’t a gang member, just a local simpleton. Now he’s dead. Of course, the killing occurred out of range of the dashboard camera. It took place where there would be no record of it on video.
Maz if wonder makes Ezell Ford event kind same is this facts.
Ezell Ford was well known in the community where he was killed. People knew he was slow, including the LAPD officers that patrolled the area. He wasn’t a gang member, just a local simpleton. Now he’s dead. Of course, the killing occurred out of range of the dashboard camera. It took place where there would be no record of it on video.
In wake of Ferguson, police try to build trust
DALLAS (AP) — In the aftermath of the police shooting in Ferguson, Missouri, some police departments are renewing efforts to reach out to black communities to build trust — holding public meetings, fielding questions and letting people voice the anger they feel toward officers who patrol their neighborhoods.”I’d much rather they shout at me at a town hall meeting at a church and get to know me afterward than not have a relationship,” Brown said. After a police shooting has already happened, “it’s too late to try to establish relationships.”Dallas has had 13 police shootings so far this year, leading to eight deaths. That follows last year’s tally of 22 shootings and six deaths, according to police. To reassure the public, Dallas County District Attorney Craig Watkins recently announced he would begin sending two prosecutors to independently investigate each police shooting.Both Brown and Watkins are black and grew up in Dallas. Watkins described his own mistrust of law enforcement as a young man and said more needs to be done to restore public confidence in law-enforcement agencies, particularly among blacks and Latinos.”This is a reality that we deal with in this country,” Watkins said. “And until we face it, we’re always going to have issues like Ferguson. I don’t want to have the same thing happen here.”Two Dallas officers were recently fired and indicted for separate shootings of civilians.To address the issue, the department is running a pilot program for body cameras and buying more Tasers to give officers a less-deadly option to subdue attackers, Brown said.
The fraught relationship between police and black residents was evident last week when a group of black protesters marched through south Dallas chanting the name of Michael Brown, the unarmed 18-year-old shot to death by a Ferguson officer.The group calls itself the Huey P. Newton Gun Club, after one of the co-founders of the Black Panthers. About 30 people carried signs and long guns, which are permitted in most public places in Texas. Several protesters said their concerns went beyond Ferguson.”A lot of people today are talking about Mike Brown,” one of the group’s organizers, Charles Goodson, told Dallas television station WFAA. “Mike Brown is not an isolated incident. We have many Mike Browns in the city of Dallas.”
At a town hall meeting, the mother of a Dallas man killed by police confronted top law enforcement officials about what they were doing to protect civilian lives.In Nashville, Police Chief Steve Anderson and several other law-enforcement and political leaders were part of a meeting last week that drew several hundred people, most of them black, to a Baptist church. Kansas City, Missouri, police have also begun a series of community forums where residents can meet with officers. When a man died last month after being placed in a chokehold by officers on Staten Island, New York police moved quickly to contact community activists and Eric Garner’s family, avoiding much of the unrest that affected Ferguson.
Less than two weeks after Brown was killed in Ferguson, St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson went to the scene where two officers shot and killed a knife-wielding man. The 25-year-old suspect, like Brown, was black.
Dotson knelt under yellow crime-scene tape and went into a crowd that was gathering nearby and chanting “Hands up! Don’t shoot!” a refrain that became popular in Ferguson.
“I said, ‘I’m the chief of police. I work for you,” Dotson said. He said he wanted to share what he knew with protesters so they could have “as complete a picture” as police.
Among the police departments planning changes is Ferguson itself.
The city said in a statement that it would “learn from this tragedy.” The statement outlined a range of actions being explored, including hiring more black officers, raising money to buy dashboard and body cameras, working more closely with schools to provide better resources for young people and rebuilding the business district affected by rioting.
Malik Aziz, chairman of the National Black Police Association, which represents 80,000 African-American police officers, said what happened in Ferguson was “one of many wakeup calls. The alarms seem to be ringing louder.”
“What people are saying is that they demand that police departments be open, transparent, establish trust,” Aziz said. “They want to be heard. They want to be treated with respect, and they want police departments to be above reproach and to be the professionals we claim that we are.”
In wake of Ferguson, police try to build trust
DALLAS (AP) — In the aftermath of the police shooting in Ferguson, Missouri, some police departments are renewing efforts to reach out to black communities to build trust — holding public meetings, fielding questions and letting people voice the anger they feel toward officers who patrol their neighborhoods.”I’d much rather they shout at me at a town hall meeting at a church and get to know me afterward than not have a relationship,” Brown said. After a police shooting has already happened, “it’s too late to try to establish relationships.”Dallas has had 13 police shootings so far this year, leading to eight deaths. That follows last year’s tally of 22 shootings and six deaths, according to police. To reassure the public, Dallas County District Attorney Craig Watkins recently announced he would begin sending two prosecutors to independently investigate each police shooting.Both Brown and Watkins are black and grew up in Dallas. Watkins described his own mistrust of law enforcement as a young man and said more needs to be done to restore public confidence in law-enforcement agencies, particularly among blacks and Latinos.”This is a reality that we deal with in this country,” Watkins said. “And until we face it, we’re always going to have issues like Ferguson. I don’t want to have the same thing happen here.”Two Dallas officers were recently fired and indicted for separate shootings of civilians.To address the issue, the department is running a pilot program for body cameras and buying more Tasers to give officers a less-deadly option to subdue attackers, Brown said.
The fraught relationship between police and black residents was evident last week when a group of black protesters marched through south Dallas chanting the name of Michael Brown, the unarmed 18-year-old shot to death by a Ferguson officer.The group calls itself the Huey P. Newton Gun Club, after one of the co-founders of the Black Panthers. About 30 people carried signs and long guns, which are permitted in most public places in Texas. Several protesters said their concerns went beyond Ferguson.”A lot of people today are talking about Mike Brown,” one of the group’s organizers, Charles Goodson, told Dallas television station WFAA. “Mike Brown is not an isolated incident. We have many Mike Browns in the city of Dallas.”
At a town hall meeting, the mother of a Dallas man killed by police confronted top law enforcement officials about what they were doing to protect civilian lives.In Nashville, Police Chief Steve Anderson and several other law-enforcement and political leaders were part of a meeting last week that drew several hundred people, most of them black, to a Baptist church. Kansas City, Missouri, police have also begun a series of community forums where residents can meet with officers. When a man died last month after being placed in a chokehold by officers on Staten Island, New York police moved quickly to contact community activists and Eric Garner’s family, avoiding much of the unrest that affected Ferguson.
Less than two weeks after Brown was killed in Ferguson, St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson went to the scene where two officers shot and killed a knife-wielding man. The 25-year-old suspect, like Brown, was black.
Dotson knelt under yellow crime-scene tape and went into a crowd that was gathering nearby and chanting “Hands up! Don’t shoot!” a refrain that became popular in Ferguson.
“I said, ‘I’m the chief of police. I work for you,” Dotson said. He said he wanted to share what he knew with protesters so they could have “as complete a picture” as police.
Among the police departments planning changes is Ferguson itself.
The city said in a statement that it would “learn from this tragedy.” The statement outlined a range of actions being explored, including hiring more black officers, raising money to buy dashboard and body cameras, working more closely with schools to provide better resources for young people and rebuilding the business district affected by rioting.
Malik Aziz, chairman of the National Black Police Association, which represents 80,000 African-American police officers, said what happened in Ferguson was “one of many wakeup calls. The alarms seem to be ringing louder.”
“What people are saying is that they demand that police departments be open, transparent, establish trust,” Aziz said. “They want to be heard. They want to be treated with respect, and they want police departments to be above reproach and to be the professionals we claim that we are.”
Patrick, the topic of this discussion thread is the importance of showing both sides when someone is accused after a shooting. Quoting a long list of one-sided accusations is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Patrick, the topic of this discussion thread is the importance of showing both sides when someone is accused after a shooting. Quoting a long list of one-sided accusations is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Patrick, the topic of this discussion thread is the importance of showing both sides when someone is accused after a shooting. Quoting a long list of one-sided accusations is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Disagree Mas issue why is events like these keep happening why police feel they do not feel need be held account able to commute the people which protech server over on these type events. Is job of policemen to protech server commute. I fail see where these type events protech server commute. There issue of those in police keep state well these type events do not happen enough or just few bad cops cause this events. Is just importane Mas point if Ferguson police had better standing with people protech and server them like what been doing Dallas thing might not happen way did Ferguson??? Mas as arm private security gaurd where live in Phoinex Az where held same standard responsable on deadly force as are police. Infact Phoinex Da show no more mercy on this type issue to us than he does cops I know for fact face him over negligent discharge firearm which most people do not know very big deal in Az you can end up with class 6 felony over matter your job as guard is over as well your freedom even if nothing more happen shooting door frame. All I state Mas this is new issue it happening more and more to good cops and bad cops is going away buy listing events these event do happen show issue prove event like Ferguson happen more police would like issue well not be fixed shove under carpet news focus on some thing new. Drake comment shows there is cause to Ferguson goes far beyond Ferguson other police round country see there issue that they need be more address than both side accuse each other over events after matter.
Disagree Mas issue why is events like these keep happening why police feel they do not feel need be held account able to commute the people which protech server over on these type events. Is job of policemen to protech server commute. I fail see where these type events protech server commute. There issue of those in police keep state well these type events do not happen enough or just few bad cops cause this events. Is just importane Mas point if Ferguson police had better standing with people protech and server them like what been doing Dallas thing might not happen way did Ferguson??? Mas as arm private security gaurd where live in Phoinex Az where held same standard responsable on deadly force as are police. Infact Phoinex Da show no more mercy on this type issue to us than he does cops I know for fact face him over negligent discharge firearm which most people do not know very big deal in Az you can end up with class 6 felony over matter your job as guard is over as well your freedom even if nothing more happen shooting door frame. All I state Mas this is new issue it happening more and more to good cops and bad cops is going away buy listing events these event do happen show issue prove event like Ferguson happen more police would like issue well not be fixed shove under carpet news focus on some thing new. Drake comment shows there is cause to Ferguson goes far beyond Ferguson other police round country see there issue that they need be more address than both side accuse each other over events after matter.
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