In recent blog entries here, I touched on the two days of the Gun Rights Policy Conference in Chicago last month.
It’s official: you can now listen to the entire presentation yourself, with audio links here courtesy of the Second Amendment Foundation: http://www.saf.org/?page_id=4402 .
There’s LOTS of good stuff here. I was proud to have had a small part of it, on the Gun-Free Zones panel. As usual at GRPCs, I gained far more knowledge than I dispensed.
Next year’s GRPC will be in Phoenix, Arizona the last full weekend of September 2015. Being someplace where you can carry while attending makes it … better.
Listening to a bunch of it right now. I wasn’t able to attend on Sunday so this is quite welcome! Thanks Mas.
Massad: A question for you. How many people have you arrested for carrying a concealed firearm?
And
Do you believe “the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed”?
I ask you this because in my opinion, Govt. issued Permission slips are an infringement and completely against the Second Amendment.
Mas, you sat on the Gun- Free Zones panel. In my idle musings, I have wondered if a business, located in a state that allows concealed carry for personal defense, elects to deny concealed carry on their premises, are they not implicitly assuming responsibility for your safety/protection from attack while on their premises? Have any lawsuits been filed/adjudicated in this scenario?
Dennis, I don’t know of any.
Jeff State, to answer your first question: None. As to your second point, since neither your nor my opinion matters to Constitutional Law, which is interpreted by SCOTUS and not by us, the only realistic options for permitless carry are the states which allow it by law.
Thanks for the link, Mas.
In the Wi law places that allow CC are exempt from legal action by patrons / workers should injury or death occur by criminal activities. Those places that post no guns signs are not exempt. Not exactly the same,I guess, but close.
sweet. i found a few independent videos of the 2014 conference on youtube (gunscom channel posted ~ 2 weeks ago), otherwise mostly “GAPAN RACING PIGEON CLUB”.
Mac-Wi, -Thanks. I would think that similar laws in other states would result in lower liability insurance premiums for business owners who allow carry, resulting in more proprietors taking down the signs. Just thinking.
In Illinois an interesting part of the cc law is that if any restaurant has more than 50% of sales in booze then cc is prohibited. How is a person to know that? I have heard that the restaurant is supposed to post their situation on the door. Any bar–restaurant that does not enforce the cc law can be fined. Of course restaurants don’t want the competition to know their booze/food ratio. The signs used and prescribed by the State Police are very close to the no smoking signs everyone seems to use. Be sure to pack your binoculars.
Mas, you are much too modest.
Ohio law allows concealed carry in (all) places that serve alcohol for consumption provided that the CCW licensee does not consume any alcohol. As these places are private property, the owners can post signs prohibiting licensed concealed carry. If you do not see the sign and carry in and are subsequently discovered on the premesis with your gun and told about the policy, so long as you immediately leave there is nothing that the owner can do to you. Only if you refuse to leave can you be charged with misdemeanor criminal trespass. I NEVER see the signs, even if I have to walk in backwards while checking that my car is locked with the remote. 🙂 Not seeing the signs means carrying in virtually all places except Ohio’s prohibited zones (schools, gov’t buildings, etc.).
PS: I have never been “caught’ in a posted private business.
Ya know, if you get “caught” carrying concealed, you’re not doing it right……