As I watched the prosecutor live, announcing the grand jury’s verdict, I watched the ripple of rage go through the crowd outside, seen on the CNN split-screen. Soon, the rocks and bottles were flying, there were gunshots (apparently not from the police side), a police car wrecked by the riotous, drawing a volley of tear gas. Then buildings were burning, and the looting was underway.
There was fear in the voices of many news folks reporting from the scene. One seemed surprised when he said that some of the “protesters” were trying to restrain some of the “agitators.” What a teachable moment: watching a journalist realize that when the thrown missiles are coming in his direction, protesters turn into agitators.
The agitators were already moving into their long-pre-planned assault on society, before the prosecutor could even begin his explanation of the reasoning behind the decision of the grand jury, who he described as the only people who had seen all the evidence there was to present. They weren’t there for truth. They weren’t there for justice. They were there for a lynching, in my view.
Those who DO want to find out the truth, can start here, with the transcript of the grand jury minutes, courtesy of the New York Times: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/11/24/ferguson-assets/grand-jury-testimony.pdf .
This is not going to be pretty.
This case/ordeal progressed just as I predicted it would from the beginning. The early witnesses that were paraded by the media were impeached immediately when the autopsy was released. They became utterly useless as witnesses for a prosecution. The police and prosecution could not comment on the evidence until decisions were made as to whether prosecution would result.
I’ll make another prediction for everyone to ponder. Much has been said about possible civil rights violations being pursued by Eric Holder’s Justice Department. This will most likely end up as an investigation of the police departments themselves on “on-going systemic abuses and discrimination”, not Darren Wilson himself. It was obvious to anyone who knows how the F.B.I. works in these situations that they had ruled out action against Officer Wilson early on in their “separate” investigation. I would even suggest that they inadvertently helped Officer Wilson by locating witnesses that bolstered Officer Wilson’s account that may not have come forward for local law enforcement.
As to the property damage in the aftermath of the Grand Jury decision, I would imagine that a decision was made early on by political types, that property would be sacrificed at the altar of minimizing confrontation, hoping that this situation will burn itself out (no pun intended) without loss of life.
I also predict this is far from over, not only for Ferguson, but for the nation. Those that would destroy this country have been building towards this juncture in history, with this president and administration in place, for their equivalent of an American Spring where they build their vision of a socialist utopia out of the rubble.
I hope I’m wrong.
This case/ordeal progressed just as I predicted it would from the beginning. The early witnesses that were paraded by the media were impeached immediately when the autopsy was released. They became utterly useless as witnesses for a prosecution. The police and prosecution could not comment on the evidence until decisions were made as to whether prosecution would result.
I’ll make another prediction for everyone to ponder. Much has been said about possible civil rights violations being pursued by Eric Holder’s Justice Department. This will most likely end up as an investigation of the police departments themselves on “on-going systemic abuses and discrimination”, not Darren Wilson himself. It was obvious to anyone who knows how the F.B.I. works in these situations that they had ruled out action against Officer Wilson early on in their “separate” investigation. I would even suggest that they inadvertently helped Officer Wilson by locating witnesses that bolstered Officer Wilson’s account that may not have come forward for local law enforcement.
As to the property damage in the aftermath of the Grand Jury decision, I would imagine that a decision was made early on by political types, that property would be sacrificed at the altar of minimizing confrontation, hoping that this situation will burn itself out (no pun intended) without loss of life.
I also predict this is far from over, not only for Ferguson, but for the nation. Those that would destroy this country have been building towards this juncture in history, with this president and administration in place, for their equivalent of an American Spring where they build their vision of a socialist utopia out of the rubble.
I hope I’m wrong.
This case/ordeal progressed just as I predicted it would from the beginning. The early witnesses that were paraded by the media were impeached immediately when the autopsy was released. They became utterly useless as witnesses for a prosecution. The police and prosecution could not comment on the evidence until decisions were made as to whether prosecution would result.
I’ll make another prediction for everyone to ponder. Much has been said about possible civil rights violations being pursued by Eric Holder’s Justice Department. This will most likely end up as an investigation of the police departments themselves on “on-going systemic abuses and discrimination”, not Darren Wilson himself. It was obvious to anyone who knows how the F.B.I. works in these situations that they had ruled out action against Officer Wilson early on in their “separate” investigation. I would even suggest that they inadvertently helped Officer Wilson by locating witnesses that bolstered Officer Wilson’s account that may not have come forward for local law enforcement.
As to the property damage in the aftermath of the Grand Jury decision, I would imagine that a decision was made early on by political types, that property would be sacrificed at the altar of minimizing confrontation, hoping that this situation will burn itself out (no pun intended) without loss of life.
I also predict this is far from over, not only for Ferguson, but for the nation. Those that would destroy this country have been building towards this juncture in history, with this president and administration in place, for their equivalent of an American Spring where they build their vision of a socialist utopia out of the rubble.
I hope I’m wrong.
This case/ordeal progressed just as I predicted it would from the beginning. The early witnesses that were paraded by the media were impeached immediately when the autopsy was released. They became utterly useless as witnesses for a prosecution. The police and prosecution could not comment on the evidence until decisions were made as to whether prosecution would result.
I’ll make another prediction for everyone to ponder. Much has been said about possible civil rights violations being pursued by Eric Holder’s Justice Department. This will most likely end up as an investigation of the police departments themselves on “on-going systemic abuses and discrimination”, not Darren Wilson himself. It was obvious to anyone who knows how the F.B.I. works in these situations that they had ruled out action against Officer Wilson early on in their “separate” investigation. I would even suggest that they inadvertently helped Officer Wilson by locating witnesses that bolstered Officer Wilson’s account that may not have come forward for local law enforcement.
As to the property damage in the aftermath of the Grand Jury decision, I would imagine that a decision was made early on by political types, that property would be sacrificed at the altar of minimizing confrontation, hoping that this situation will burn itself out (no pun intended) without loss of life.
I also predict this is far from over, not only for Ferguson, but for the nation. Those that would destroy this country have been building towards this juncture in history, with this president and administration in place, for their equivalent of an American Spring where they build their vision of a socialist utopia out of the rubble.
I hope I’m wrong.
I think justice was served. The crowd was not looking for justice, they are after vengeance. All they will do is destroy their own community.
I think justice was served. The crowd was not looking for justice, they are after vengeance. All they will do is destroy their own community.
I think justice was served. The crowd was not looking for justice, they are after vengeance. All they will do is destroy their own community.
I think justice was served. The crowd was not looking for justice, they are after vengeance. All they will do is destroy their own community.
Mas, I am trying to see sequentially the various possible crimes that Michael Brown committed while he unfortunately chose to head for destruction at age 18. I see (1) theft or robbery of the tobacco smokes (misdemeanor?), (2) 1st degree assault (with battery) on LEO including possible weapons grab attempt (total felony), (3) evading arrest (fleeing felon?), (4) assaulting (charging belligerently with head lowered at) the LEO (felony?), and (5) both assaults under the influence of THC (crime?). Could not 2, 3, and 4 each have justified LEO firing at some point?
If only Michael Brown had concentrated on legitimate career development instead of choosing delinquency. Sad for all, not least of all Officer Darren Wilson, doing his difficult and dangerous job.
Mas, I am trying to see sequentially the various possible crimes that Michael Brown committed while he unfortunately chose to head for destruction at age 18. I see (1) theft or robbery of the tobacco smokes (misdemeanor?), (2) 1st degree assault (with battery) on LEO including possible weapons grab attempt (total felony), (3) evading arrest (fleeing felon?), (4) assaulting (charging belligerently with head lowered at) the LEO (felony?), and (5) both assaults under the influence of THC (crime?). Could not 2, 3, and 4 each have justified LEO firing at some point?
If only Michael Brown had concentrated on legitimate career development instead of choosing delinquency. Sad for all, not least of all Officer Darren Wilson, doing his difficult and dangerous job.
Mas, I am trying to see sequentially the various possible crimes that Michael Brown committed while he unfortunately chose to head for destruction at age 18. I see (1) theft or robbery of the tobacco smokes (misdemeanor?), (2) 1st degree assault (with battery) on LEO including possible weapons grab attempt (total felony), (3) evading arrest (fleeing felon?), (4) assaulting (charging belligerently with head lowered at) the LEO (felony?), and (5) both assaults under the influence of THC (crime?). Could not 2, 3, and 4 each have justified LEO firing at some point?
If only Michael Brown had concentrated on legitimate career development instead of choosing delinquency. Sad for all, not least of all Officer Darren Wilson, doing his difficult and dangerous job.
Mas, I am trying to see sequentially the various possible crimes that Michael Brown committed while he unfortunately chose to head for destruction at age 18. I see (1) theft or robbery of the tobacco smokes (misdemeanor?), (2) 1st degree assault (with battery) on LEO including possible weapons grab attempt (total felony), (3) evading arrest (fleeing felon?), (4) assaulting (charging belligerently with head lowered at) the LEO (felony?), and (5) both assaults under the influence of THC (crime?). Could not 2, 3, and 4 each have justified LEO firing at some point?
If only Michael Brown had concentrated on legitimate career development instead of choosing delinquency. Sad for all, not least of all Officer Darren Wilson, doing his difficult and dangerous job.
It is always a tragedy when bad guys act in a manner that requires their killing. It is a REAL tragedy when the general public (in the area effected) are too stupid, too ignorant, to wait for the facts, to make judgement, are too racially motivated to see beyond the circumstance, are too jacked up by outside characters, to seek the truth. I feel badly, not for the violent felonious Michael Brown, but for the poor fools burning and raping their own homes and neighborhoods. Pity them, for their stupidity, for their short-sightedness, and for their futureless future…
It is always a tragedy when bad guys act in a manner that requires their killing. It is a REAL tragedy when the general public (in the area effected) are too stupid, too ignorant, to wait for the facts, to make judgement, are too racially motivated to see beyond the circumstance, are too jacked up by outside characters, to seek the truth. I feel badly, not for the violent felonious Michael Brown, but for the poor fools burning and raping their own homes and neighborhoods. Pity them, for their stupidity, for their short-sightedness, and for their futureless future…
It is always a tragedy when bad guys act in a manner that requires their killing. It is a REAL tragedy when the general public (in the area effected) are too stupid, too ignorant, to wait for the facts, to make judgement, are too racially motivated to see beyond the circumstance, are too jacked up by outside characters, to seek the truth. I feel badly, not for the violent felonious Michael Brown, but for the poor fools burning and raping their own homes and neighborhoods. Pity them, for their stupidity, for their short-sightedness, and for their futureless future…
It is always a tragedy when bad guys act in a manner that requires their killing. It is a REAL tragedy when the general public (in the area effected) are too stupid, too ignorant, to wait for the facts, to make judgement, are too racially motivated to see beyond the circumstance, are too jacked up by outside characters, to seek the truth. I feel badly, not for the violent felonious Michael Brown, but for the poor fools burning and raping their own homes and neighborhoods. Pity them, for their stupidity, for their short-sightedness, and for their futureless future…
The “news” keeps carefully picking and using words to further inflame the bad situation. They are still saying “unarmed black teen killed by a white cop”. They are suggesting that the Grand Jury got it wrong. How does the 1st amendment allow “news” reporters to incite riots? We have a government that has no idea about how to control rioting criminals. We have civil rights “leaders” who stoke the flames but disappear when SHTF. We have bleeding hearts that blame themselves and us normal people for the plight of the oppressed who are incapable of assimilating.
Most of all we have blacks who belong in exile polluting our society.
The “news” keeps carefully picking and using words to further inflame the bad situation. They are still saying “unarmed black teen killed by a white cop”. They are suggesting that the Grand Jury got it wrong. How does the 1st amendment allow “news” reporters to incite riots? We have a government that has no idea about how to control rioting criminals. We have civil rights “leaders” who stoke the flames but disappear when SHTF. We have bleeding hearts that blame themselves and us normal people for the plight of the oppressed who are incapable of assimilating.
Most of all we have blacks who belong in exile polluting our society.
The “news” keeps carefully picking and using words to further inflame the bad situation. They are still saying “unarmed black teen killed by a white cop”. They are suggesting that the Grand Jury got it wrong. How does the 1st amendment allow “news” reporters to incite riots? We have a government that has no idea about how to control rioting criminals. We have civil rights “leaders” who stoke the flames but disappear when SHTF. We have bleeding hearts that blame themselves and us normal people for the plight of the oppressed who are incapable of assimilating.
Most of all we have blacks who belong in exile polluting our society.
The “news” keeps carefully picking and using words to further inflame the bad situation. They are still saying “unarmed black teen killed by a white cop”. They are suggesting that the Grand Jury got it wrong. How does the 1st amendment allow “news” reporters to incite riots? We have a government that has no idea about how to control rioting criminals. We have civil rights “leaders” who stoke the flames but disappear when SHTF. We have bleeding hearts that blame themselves and us normal people for the plight of the oppressed who are incapable of assimilating.
Most of all we have blacks who belong in exile polluting our society.
The media has absolute responsibility (and control). They want there to be riots or there would not be. If they change from”16 year old unarmed” to ” 300lb Felon resisting arrest who injured the police officer so severely that it required multiple surgeries to repair” then even the socialist assholes could not justify what’s going on. They will continue to under report the toxicology report on Brown just like they did on Trayvon
So who is really pulling the strings
The media has absolute responsibility (and control). They want there to be riots or there would not be. If they change from”16 year old unarmed” to ” 300lb Felon resisting arrest who injured the police officer so severely that it required multiple surgeries to repair” then even the socialist assholes could not justify what’s going on. They will continue to under report the toxicology report on Brown just like they did on Trayvon
So who is really pulling the strings
You are absolutely right and it is so very sad. Where is the culpability of the attacker, Michael Brown? When did the bad guy become the hero? I guess I’m just to old and out of touch to appreciate the “community’s outrage”.
You are absolutely right and it is so very sad. Where is the culpability of the attacker, Michael Brown? When did the bad guy become the hero? I guess I’m just to old and out of touch to appreciate the “community’s outrage”.
You are absolutely right and it is so very sad. Where is the culpability of the attacker, Michael Brown? When did the bad guy become the hero? I guess I’m just to old and out of touch to appreciate the “community’s outrage”.
Andrew Branca is going thru the ~ 4800 pages of the transcript, writing articles as he does. first one posted here @ legalinsurrection.com
Andrew Branca is going thru the ~ 4800 pages of the transcript, writing articles as he does. first one posted here @ legalinsurrection.com
I live 60 miles east of Ferguson. Days previous to the announcement the local news media would give updates in the Mike Brown KILLING. Today 11/25/2014 they have changed gears to call it updates on the Mike Brown SHOOTING.
I’m cloudy on why the change of words? Was it because of the 21 buildings that were looted & burned or the fact a news reporter took a huge rock to the cranium while giving “updates”.
I live 60 miles east of Ferguson. Days previous to the announcement the local news media would give updates in the Mike Brown KILLING. Today 11/25/2014 they have changed gears to call it updates on the Mike Brown SHOOTING.
I’m cloudy on why the change of words? Was it because of the 21 buildings that were looted & burned or the fact a news reporter took a huge rock to the cranium while giving “updates”.
I live 60 miles east of Ferguson. Days previous to the announcement the local news media would give updates in the Mike Brown KILLING. Today 11/25/2014 they have changed gears to call it updates on the Mike Brown SHOOTING.
I’m cloudy on why the change of words? Was it because of the 21 buildings that were looted & burned or the fact a news reporter took a huge rock to the cranium while giving “updates”.
Mas,
What might have gone down on the Ferguson scene,
If biz owners had been ROKs
Armed with AR-15s?
I am not jesting. ROK Army or ROK Marine veterans would have defended their businesses using the degree of force appropriate to each individual situation.
Agitators advocating violence should have been shot. Arsonists should have been shot. Looters should have been shot. One by one. By that famed Finnish marksman Semmi Ottomatik, flown in from Helsinki to render professional assistance.
Hey, where were the posters reading:
Warning To Criminals:
Shooters Will Be (a) Lot.
Mas,
What might have gone down on the Ferguson scene,
If biz owners had been ROKs
Armed with AR-15s?
I am not jesting. ROK Army or ROK Marine veterans would have defended their businesses using the degree of force appropriate to each individual situation.
Agitators advocating violence should have been shot. Arsonists should have been shot. Looters should have been shot. One by one. By that famed Finnish marksman Semmi Ottomatik, flown in from Helsinki to render professional assistance.
Hey, where were the posters reading:
Warning To Criminals:
Shooters Will Be (a) Lot.
I was angry that they didn’t put the national guard out there and permitted too much crime. More arrests needed to occur.
Also this is not 1965 in Mississippi, Michael Brown was the bad guy here he robbed a store then was roughing up a police officer when he got shot, he brought about his own demise, he’s no martyr. I have sympathy for Michael Brown mother yes, but he was the criminal here not officer Wilson. This needs to be put into proper prospective and seems to have gotten lost in the hype.
I was angry that they didn’t put the national guard out there and permitted too much crime. More arrests needed to occur.
Also this is not 1965 in Mississippi, Michael Brown was the bad guy here he robbed a store then was roughing up a police officer when he got shot, he brought about his own demise, he’s no martyr. I have sympathy for Michael Brown mother yes, but he was the criminal here not officer Wilson. This needs to be put into proper prospective and seems to have gotten lost in the hype.
I was angry that they didn’t put the national guard out there and permitted too much crime. More arrests needed to occur.
Also this is not 1965 in Mississippi, Michael Brown was the bad guy here he robbed a store then was roughing up a police officer when he got shot, he brought about his own demise, he’s no martyr. I have sympathy for Michael Brown mother yes, but he was the criminal here not officer Wilson. This needs to be put into proper prospective and seems to have gotten lost in the hype.
Mas, what are you doing watching CNN aka the Clinton News Network?
I sure hope you’re not becoming senile in your advanced years 🙂
If you want accurate and balanced reporting, watch Fox News.
Have a good bellystuffing Thanksgiving holiday everyone.
Mas, what are you doing watching CNN aka the Clinton News Network?
I sure hope you’re not becoming senile in your advanced years 🙂
If you want accurate and balanced reporting, watch Fox News.
Have a good bellystuffing Thanksgiving holiday everyone.
Since when do we expect fair and unbiased reporting? Was Dorian Johnson witness 14 in the written documents? If so, I agree with Ladywest that this witness was credible. The witness (14) had his opinion but seemed to give an honest account from his perspective. One thing that irks me has been the criticism that a special grand jury was not selected. That is insulting to the members as well as their community. Nothing at any time has suggested them to be anything other than serious and thoughtful in their deliberations.
Since when do we expect fair and unbiased reporting? Was Dorian Johnson witness 14 in the written documents? If so, I agree with Ladywest that this witness was credible. The witness (14) had his opinion but seemed to give an honest account from his perspective. One thing that irks me has been the criticism that a special grand jury was not selected. That is insulting to the members as well as their community. Nothing at any time has suggested them to be anything other than serious and thoughtful in their deliberations.
Since when do we expect fair and unbiased reporting? Was Dorian Johnson witness 14 in the written documents? If so, I agree with Ladywest that this witness was credible. The witness (14) had his opinion but seemed to give an honest account from his perspective. One thing that irks me has been the criticism that a special grand jury was not selected. That is insulting to the members as well as their community. Nothing at any time has suggested them to be anything other than serious and thoughtful in their deliberations.
Two-gun Steve, the strong-arm robbery (threat of force was involved) of the convenience store would be a felony.
Two-gun Steve, the strong-arm robbery (threat of force was involved) of the convenience store would be a felony.
The grand jury displayed moral courage in rendering their decision. I watched the prosecutor’s explanation of the events surrounding the incident, and his explanation of the thoroughness of the grand jury’s examination of the evidence and their active evaluation of all the hours of witnesses’ testimonies and of Officer Brown’s testimony more than once. Any rational person would understand that the grand jury came to the right conclusion, unpopular as it is to many people Ferguson and other cities around our nation.
I note with interest that President Obama did not have any remarks similar to the remarks he made earlier in his presidency during the Trayvon Martin (that he could have been Martin or that Martin could have been his son) and Prof. Gates (the arresting police acted, “stupidly”) incidents. If anything, the President should now visit Ferguson and use whatever political capital he has left to quell the unrest there.
I often wonder if the same violence would follow a similar grand jury decision for a white man being shot and killed by a black police officer, or a black man being shot and killed by a black police officer, or a white man being shot and killed by a white police officer.
The grand jury displayed moral courage in rendering their decision. I watched the prosecutor’s explanation of the events surrounding the incident, and his explanation of the thoroughness of the grand jury’s examination of the evidence and their active evaluation of all the hours of witnesses’ testimonies and of Officer Brown’s testimony more than once. Any rational person would understand that the grand jury came to the right conclusion, unpopular as it is to many people Ferguson and other cities around our nation.
I note with interest that President Obama did not have any remarks similar to the remarks he made earlier in his presidency during the Trayvon Martin (that he could have been Martin or that Martin could have been his son) and Prof. Gates (the arresting police acted, “stupidly”) incidents. If anything, the President should now visit Ferguson and use whatever political capital he has left to quell the unrest there.
I often wonder if the same violence would follow a similar grand jury decision for a white man being shot and killed by a black police officer, or a black man being shot and killed by a black police officer, or a white man being shot and killed by a white police officer.
The grand jury displayed moral courage in rendering their decision. I watched the prosecutor’s explanation of the events surrounding the incident, and his explanation of the thoroughness of the grand jury’s examination of the evidence and their active evaluation of all the hours of witnesses’ testimonies and of Officer Brown’s testimony more than once. Any rational person would understand that the grand jury came to the right conclusion, unpopular as it is to many people Ferguson and other cities around our nation.
I note with interest that President Obama did not have any remarks similar to the remarks he made earlier in his presidency during the Trayvon Martin (that he could have been Martin or that Martin could have been his son) and Prof. Gates (the arresting police acted, “stupidly”) incidents. If anything, the President should now visit Ferguson and use whatever political capital he has left to quell the unrest there.
I often wonder if the same violence would follow a similar grand jury decision for a white man being shot and killed by a black police officer, or a black man being shot and killed by a black police officer, or a white man being shot and killed by a white police officer.
In the aftermath and on the talk shows I hear supporters of MB speak of how he was unarmed and how far the distance between MB and the police officer was. That the officer had plenty of space and time and did not need to shoot.
25 years ago when I was 21 years old I took a Lethal Force class from you. One of the first things we learned was that if we were armed and attacked that the attacker has access to our gun so is there fore treated as if he is armed. Secondly I remember vividly you having members of the class run from a distance of I think 30 feet and we timed it, we were all a bit puzzled as to why you were having us do that and then you told us thats how quick an aggressor can be at point a 30 feet away and be on top of you, you have seconds to act . When watching the MB supporters on the talk shows bring up the distance i kept wanting someone to have them run 30 feet and time them.
In the aftermath and on the talk shows I hear supporters of MB speak of how he was unarmed and how far the distance between MB and the police officer was. That the officer had plenty of space and time and did not need to shoot.
25 years ago when I was 21 years old I took a Lethal Force class from you. One of the first things we learned was that if we were armed and attacked that the attacker has access to our gun so is there fore treated as if he is armed. Secondly I remember vividly you having members of the class run from a distance of I think 30 feet and we timed it, we were all a bit puzzled as to why you were having us do that and then you told us thats how quick an aggressor can be at point a 30 feet away and be on top of you, you have seconds to act . When watching the MB supporters on the talk shows bring up the distance i kept wanting someone to have them run 30 feet and time them.
If a society overlooks, excuses, pardons and grows to accept criminal behavior it is only inviting more of it.
If a society overlooks, excuses, pardons and grows to accept criminal behavior it is only inviting more of it.
If a society overlooks, excuses, pardons and grows to accept criminal behavior it is only inviting more of it.
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