Why did I title this “Ferguson, Part I”?
Because we all KNOW there’s going to be more than “one part” to whatever happens when the Grand Jury announces their determination of the facts based on the testimony they’ve spent so long hearing.
As we all wait on tenterhooks for the determination of the Grand Jury, and for what happens next, we have to consider some basic facts.
Intelligence from the field has told Missouri’s Governor Nixon that he needs to call out the National Guard and have them ready.
Agenda-driven outside protesters are already there, and have been poised for quite some time. The protesters’ alliance encompasses many of the usual suspects in the race-baiting-for-money world, and more. In a New Thing, the protesters have issued Rules of Engagement that they, uh, demand that the police follow: No protective gear allowed for cops, more than they’d usually wear, that sort of thing. Uh, yeah…
Here’s a hint: when YOU propose “Rules of Engagement,” YOU are preparing to ENGAGE.
Some of the “protesters” are on the internet requesting donations of things like gas masks and, I’m told, even bullet-proof vests. Huh. Wonder what they’re planning to draw upon themselves…
I am hearing, “Don’t worry. It will be a peaceful demonstration.” This from the same people who are talking about blocking highways (in bitterly cold winter weather) and keeping people from getting to and from work, ambulances from getting to hospitals, fire trucks from getting to fires, people from arriving at or departing from the St. Louis International Airport, etc. Keeping parents from picking up kids at school, and causing parents and kids alike who can’t make that connection, to panic.
I’m sorry, but that sounds to me very much like “disturbing the peace.” Can anyone tell me how disturbing the peace of people who are not involved in the thing you are protesting is NOT a crime? Can anyone tell me how, by definition, disturbing the peace is PEACEFUL?
Both sides seem to expect a verdict exonerating the officer who pulled the trigger. If it goes that way, I sincerely hope that people who have invested themselves heavily in potential violence protesting that verdict experience a sudden attack of massive self-control, and don’t do it.
But, a long cynicism-producing life tells me that this is not the most likely outcome.
If things “go south,” I can think of at least one cop (not me) who has suggested flamethrowers.
Many more observers, looking at the frigid weather in the Ferguson/St. Louis area – which many of us “in the business” believe may be a factor in the announcement being delayed this long – are of the opinion that fire hoses could come into play if extreme mob violence has to be contained.
I’m not recommending fire hoses, mind you, but given that the police in Ferguson have been shot at repeatedly since this whole thing began, and to the best of my knowledge the cops haven’t thrown anything but gas and rubber back, if things go violent a Night of the Frozen Ice Protesters might be preferable to another Kent State.
Readers, your input is welcome.
I am praying foremost for the safety of the police officers who are on the front line and the anger will be directed towards. That they respond accordindingly and without hesitation. Next I hope all law abiding citizens have a plan in place to protect their families, including, adequate food supplies, water, radio, some form of communication along with firearms and sufficient ammo supply. Lastly I hope the business owners have made some preparations for securing their establishments and for having armed security for protection.
We cannot allow lawless behavior to rule, millions of dollars of property damage all over again and innocent people to be hurt and shot. This is a civilized society and rule of law and behaving accordingly applies. This time there needs to be mass arrests…..
I am praying foremost for the safety of the police officers who are on the front line and the anger will be directed towards. That they respond accordindingly and without hesitation. Next I hope all law abiding citizens have a plan in place to protect their families, including, adequate food supplies, water, radio, some form of communication along with firearms and sufficient ammo supply. Lastly I hope the business owners have made some preparations for securing their establishments and for having armed security for protection.
We cannot allow lawless behavior to rule, millions of dollars of property damage all over again and innocent people to be hurt and shot. This is a civilized society and rule of law and behaving accordingly applies. This time there needs to be mass arrests…..
I am praying foremost for the safety of the police officers who are on the front line and the anger will be directed towards. That they respond accordindingly and without hesitation. Next I hope all law abiding citizens have a plan in place to protect their families, including, adequate food supplies, water, radio, some form of communication along with firearms and sufficient ammo supply. Lastly I hope the business owners have made some preparations for securing their establishments and for having armed security for protection.
We cannot allow lawless behavior to rule, millions of dollars of property damage all over again and innocent people to be hurt and shot. This is a civilized society and rule of law and behaving accordingly applies. This time there needs to be mass arrests…..
I am praying foremost for the safety of the police officers who are on the front line and the anger will be directed towards. That they respond accordindingly and without hesitation. Next I hope all law abiding citizens have a plan in place to protect their families, including, adequate food supplies, water, radio, some form of communication along with firearms and sufficient ammo supply. Lastly I hope the business owners have made some preparations for securing their establishments and for having armed security for protection.
We cannot allow lawless behavior to rule, millions of dollars of property damage all over again and innocent people to be hurt and shot. This is a civilized society and rule of law and behaving accordingly applies. This time there needs to be mass arrests…..
1) young man steals from store and physically assaults old man who tries to stop him. Police are called.
2) suspect stopped by police officer. Attacks officer in patrol car and tries to take his gun. <-this is a felony.
3) suspect runs away. When officer tries to apprehend suspect, the officer is bum rushed.
4) officer fires at suspect in self defense and kils him
The race of the criminal and officer are irrelevant in this case. Any one who attacks an officer and grabs for his gun is likely to get killed. It doesn't matter if they are black, white, Asian, Hispanic, etc… I'm worried that this simple truth is lost on many – especially young people. They are being misled by many in our media and politicians who are portraying this as a race issue. I feel sorry for the officer in this case. I pray for his safety, the safety of the other officers, and the citizens of Ferguson, MO.
1) young man steals from store and physically assaults old man who tries to stop him. Police are called.
2) suspect stopped by police officer. Attacks officer in patrol car and tries to take his gun. <-this is a felony.
3) suspect runs away. When officer tries to apprehend suspect, the officer is bum rushed.
4) officer fires at suspect in self defense and kils him
The race of the criminal and officer are irrelevant in this case. Any one who attacks an officer and grabs for his gun is likely to get killed. It doesn't matter if they are black, white, Asian, Hispanic, etc… I'm worried that this simple truth is lost on many – especially young people. They are being misled by many in our media and politicians who are portraying this as a race issue. I feel sorry for the officer in this case. I pray for his safety, the safety of the other officers, and the citizens of Ferguson, MO.
The Hippies From Hell, Sharptonites and Terrorist Rights (CAIR just got involved too) organizations are going to riot no matter what the Grand Jury decides. Bad cop, good cop. It doesn’t matter to them — they’re looking forward to a good riot. Unfortunately they aren’t going to get the punishment they deserve for putting innocent people’s lives at risk and traumatizing the crap out of innocent families which includes children.
The Hippies From Hell, Sharptonites and Terrorist Rights (CAIR just got involved too) organizations are going to riot no matter what the Grand Jury decides. Bad cop, good cop. It doesn’t matter to them — they’re looking forward to a good riot. Unfortunately they aren’t going to get the punishment they deserve for putting innocent people’s lives at risk and traumatizing the crap out of innocent families which includes children.
The Hippies From Hell, Sharptonites and Terrorist Rights (CAIR just got involved too) organizations are going to riot no matter what the Grand Jury decides. Bad cop, good cop. It doesn’t matter to them — they’re looking forward to a good riot. Unfortunately they aren’t going to get the punishment they deserve for putting innocent people’s lives at risk and traumatizing the crap out of innocent families which includes children.
The Hippies From Hell, Sharptonites and Terrorist Rights (CAIR just got involved too) organizations are going to riot no matter what the Grand Jury decides. Bad cop, good cop. It doesn’t matter to them — they’re looking forward to a good riot. Unfortunately they aren’t going to get the punishment they deserve for putting innocent people’s lives at risk and traumatizing the crap out of innocent families which includes children.
Suggesting the use conjures up the image of knocking people down with high pressure fire hoses. However, a non-violent riot control technique that might work well at this time of year is to use fire hoses set to deliver a gentle spray. Then spray the fire hoses over the protestors heads, like you’re watering the lawn, and keep it up the they are all soaking wet and shivering with cold. It probably won’t be long before the mob decides it’s time to go home. Some might suggest that soaking people down in frigid winter weather is cruel, but it will be considerably less cruel than most of the other methods of dispersing rioters. It will much have better optics on TV as well. We all know that what the protest organizers are hoping to achieve is a highly publicized “reenactment” of the 1960’s Selma and Birmingham demonstrations with the protestors cast as the victims of police brutality.
Suggesting the use conjures up the image of knocking people down with high pressure fire hoses. However, a non-violent riot control technique that might work well at this time of year is to use fire hoses set to deliver a gentle spray. Then spray the fire hoses over the protestors heads, like you’re watering the lawn, and keep it up the they are all soaking wet and shivering with cold. It probably won’t be long before the mob decides it’s time to go home. Some might suggest that soaking people down in frigid winter weather is cruel, but it will be considerably less cruel than most of the other methods of dispersing rioters. It will much have better optics on TV as well. We all know that what the protest organizers are hoping to achieve is a highly publicized “reenactment” of the 1960’s Selma and Birmingham demonstrations with the protestors cast as the victims of police brutality.
As a long time, and now retired, warhorse this issue of gas is not new, nor is it ever going to go away. Likewise the issue of fire hose’s is something that’s been a round for a VERY long time. But as an alternate, let history provide an option. As a Deputy US Marshal at Ft Chafee, when the Cuban’s came over, and then rioted on what has become known by those of us who were there as the 2nd Cuban Rock Festival, we saw, ‘on the line’ and in their face’s, the fact that once worked up into a frenzy, no amount of politeness is going to calm these folk’s down. Instead we went and used, instead of gas, a ‘seeding’ by way of helicopter’s, of the crowd’s with CS powder. We all know that CS reacts with the nasal mucus and eye’s to drop everyone in it’s path almost instantly. Problem is that gas is also airborne, and screws with everyone, rightly or wrongly, and makes a helluva mess in the process. In short, gas is indiscriminate. But powder seeding is, and can be, directed. Then, if the powder is slow, just add a fire hose. The resulting, dammed near instant, chemical reaction will have anyone ‘seeded’ doing the equivalent of a mass scratch dance, effectively rendering them useless to the protester’s. We used it at Chafee, and it worked miracle’s as far as damage count’s being way down, or highly contained, and injury’s being kept down.
As a long time, and now retired, warhorse this issue of gas is not new, nor is it ever going to go away. Likewise the issue of fire hose’s is something that’s been a round for a VERY long time. But as an alternate, let history provide an option. As a Deputy US Marshal at Ft Chafee, when the Cuban’s came over, and then rioted on what has become known by those of us who were there as the 2nd Cuban Rock Festival, we saw, ‘on the line’ and in their face’s, the fact that once worked up into a frenzy, no amount of politeness is going to calm these folk’s down. Instead we went and used, instead of gas, a ‘seeding’ by way of helicopter’s, of the crowd’s with CS powder. We all know that CS reacts with the nasal mucus and eye’s to drop everyone in it’s path almost instantly. Problem is that gas is also airborne, and screws with everyone, rightly or wrongly, and makes a helluva mess in the process. In short, gas is indiscriminate. But powder seeding is, and can be, directed. Then, if the powder is slow, just add a fire hose. The resulting, dammed near instant, chemical reaction will have anyone ‘seeded’ doing the equivalent of a mass scratch dance, effectively rendering them useless to the protester’s. We used it at Chafee, and it worked miracle’s as far as damage count’s being way down, or highly contained, and injury’s being kept down.
I was a soldier for a long time, so I have a pretty hard attitude towards people armed with molotov cocktails and ‘shooters hiding in a mob’.
If there is someone dumb enough to be announcing ‘rules of engagement’ before the Grand Jury decision is announced, they are setting the stage for a violent confrontation. If someone is organizing a riot in advance, I believe the term ‘inciting a riot’ applies, and that is a serious crime in itself. Those people should be earmarked for prosecution if things do indeed lead to rioting, injuries, or deaths.
If people want to protest peacefully – within the limits of the law – then let them, and make sure every officer involved is aware of how they are required to respond. I am not so naive as to think there aren’t a few officers who are sick of this whole situation and looking forward to busting a few heads. That must not happen, as it fuels the media fires and (in the minds of those protesting) justifies their actions. Stay calm, stay professional.
If people want to commit acts of violence and terror – using the Grand Jury announcement or anything else as an excuse – then respond appropriately and accurately. I would have sharpshooters deployed in advance, backing up the officers at street level. Anyone armed with a firebomb is a deadly threat, and should be shot. It’s illegal to even make a firebomb, much less light it and then throw it at someone/something. Tie a t-shirt across your face to hide your identity, light a molotov cocktail and try to throw it at the police (or anyone else)? Brandish a weapon, or even something that looks like a weapon, during a riot? Get shot and lie in the street. If you survive being shot, lay there hoping one of your fellow terrorists is both skilled in first aid and willing to help you, because the local EMT/Fire Department/Police are not coming to talk to you until the riot is over and gone.
I don’t live anywhere near Ferguson, but there are people here in Georgia who are talking crazy about ‘what might go down’ here if they don’t like what they see/hear there. I’ve calmly explained that I (personally) don’t care what justification you think you have for acting violent. If you present yourself as a deadly threat to me or anyone else around me, I’m going to respond as an armed citizen, regardless of whatever motivates you to break the law. You don’t get to beat me or my wife, set my home on fire, or roll my car over because you don’t like what you saw on TV or heard on the radio.
Remember, in the world of nearly instant communications and mass media, you may be at risk from someone who feels strongly about Ferguson, even if you are thousands of miles away from the scene. Stay alert, stay professional, and stay alive.
I was a soldier for a long time, so I have a pretty hard attitude towards people armed with molotov cocktails and ‘shooters hiding in a mob’.
If there is someone dumb enough to be announcing ‘rules of engagement’ before the Grand Jury decision is announced, they are setting the stage for a violent confrontation. If someone is organizing a riot in advance, I believe the term ‘inciting a riot’ applies, and that is a serious crime in itself. Those people should be earmarked for prosecution if things do indeed lead to rioting, injuries, or deaths.
If people want to protest peacefully – within the limits of the law – then let them, and make sure every officer involved is aware of how they are required to respond. I am not so naive as to think there aren’t a few officers who are sick of this whole situation and looking forward to busting a few heads. That must not happen, as it fuels the media fires and (in the minds of those protesting) justifies their actions. Stay calm, stay professional.
If people want to commit acts of violence and terror – using the Grand Jury announcement or anything else as an excuse – then respond appropriately and accurately. I would have sharpshooters deployed in advance, backing up the officers at street level. Anyone armed with a firebomb is a deadly threat, and should be shot. It’s illegal to even make a firebomb, much less light it and then throw it at someone/something. Tie a t-shirt across your face to hide your identity, light a molotov cocktail and try to throw it at the police (or anyone else)? Brandish a weapon, or even something that looks like a weapon, during a riot? Get shot and lie in the street. If you survive being shot, lay there hoping one of your fellow terrorists is both skilled in first aid and willing to help you, because the local EMT/Fire Department/Police are not coming to talk to you until the riot is over and gone.
I don’t live anywhere near Ferguson, but there are people here in Georgia who are talking crazy about ‘what might go down’ here if they don’t like what they see/hear there. I’ve calmly explained that I (personally) don’t care what justification you think you have for acting violent. If you present yourself as a deadly threat to me or anyone else around me, I’m going to respond as an armed citizen, regardless of whatever motivates you to break the law. You don’t get to beat me or my wife, set my home on fire, or roll my car over because you don’t like what you saw on TV or heard on the radio.
Remember, in the world of nearly instant communications and mass media, you may be at risk from someone who feels strongly about Ferguson, even if you are thousands of miles away from the scene. Stay alert, stay professional, and stay alive.
I was a soldier for a long time, so I have a pretty hard attitude towards people armed with molotov cocktails and ‘shooters hiding in a mob’.
If there is someone dumb enough to be announcing ‘rules of engagement’ before the Grand Jury decision is announced, they are setting the stage for a violent confrontation. If someone is organizing a riot in advance, I believe the term ‘inciting a riot’ applies, and that is a serious crime in itself. Those people should be earmarked for prosecution if things do indeed lead to rioting, injuries, or deaths.
If people want to protest peacefully – within the limits of the law – then let them, and make sure every officer involved is aware of how they are required to respond. I am not so naive as to think there aren’t a few officers who are sick of this whole situation and looking forward to busting a few heads. That must not happen, as it fuels the media fires and (in the minds of those protesting) justifies their actions. Stay calm, stay professional.
If people want to commit acts of violence and terror – using the Grand Jury announcement or anything else as an excuse – then respond appropriately and accurately. I would have sharpshooters deployed in advance, backing up the officers at street level. Anyone armed with a firebomb is a deadly threat, and should be shot. It’s illegal to even make a firebomb, much less light it and then throw it at someone/something. Tie a t-shirt across your face to hide your identity, light a molotov cocktail and try to throw it at the police (or anyone else)? Brandish a weapon, or even something that looks like a weapon, during a riot? Get shot and lie in the street. If you survive being shot, lay there hoping one of your fellow terrorists is both skilled in first aid and willing to help you, because the local EMT/Fire Department/Police are not coming to talk to you until the riot is over and gone.
I don’t live anywhere near Ferguson, but there are people here in Georgia who are talking crazy about ‘what might go down’ here if they don’t like what they see/hear there. I’ve calmly explained that I (personally) don’t care what justification you think you have for acting violent. If you present yourself as a deadly threat to me or anyone else around me, I’m going to respond as an armed citizen, regardless of whatever motivates you to break the law. You don’t get to beat me or my wife, set my home on fire, or roll my car over because you don’t like what you saw on TV or heard on the radio.
Remember, in the world of nearly instant communications and mass media, you may be at risk from someone who feels strongly about Ferguson, even if you are thousands of miles away from the scene. Stay alert, stay professional, and stay alive.
I was a soldier for a long time, so I have a pretty hard attitude towards people armed with molotov cocktails and ‘shooters hiding in a mob’.
If there is someone dumb enough to be announcing ‘rules of engagement’ before the Grand Jury decision is announced, they are setting the stage for a violent confrontation. If someone is organizing a riot in advance, I believe the term ‘inciting a riot’ applies, and that is a serious crime in itself. Those people should be earmarked for prosecution if things do indeed lead to rioting, injuries, or deaths.
If people want to protest peacefully – within the limits of the law – then let them, and make sure every officer involved is aware of how they are required to respond. I am not so naive as to think there aren’t a few officers who are sick of this whole situation and looking forward to busting a few heads. That must not happen, as it fuels the media fires and (in the minds of those protesting) justifies their actions. Stay calm, stay professional.
If people want to commit acts of violence and terror – using the Grand Jury announcement or anything else as an excuse – then respond appropriately and accurately. I would have sharpshooters deployed in advance, backing up the officers at street level. Anyone armed with a firebomb is a deadly threat, and should be shot. It’s illegal to even make a firebomb, much less light it and then throw it at someone/something. Tie a t-shirt across your face to hide your identity, light a molotov cocktail and try to throw it at the police (or anyone else)? Brandish a weapon, or even something that looks like a weapon, during a riot? Get shot and lie in the street. If you survive being shot, lay there hoping one of your fellow terrorists is both skilled in first aid and willing to help you, because the local EMT/Fire Department/Police are not coming to talk to you until the riot is over and gone.
I don’t live anywhere near Ferguson, but there are people here in Georgia who are talking crazy about ‘what might go down’ here if they don’t like what they see/hear there. I’ve calmly explained that I (personally) don’t care what justification you think you have for acting violent. If you present yourself as a deadly threat to me or anyone else around me, I’m going to respond as an armed citizen, regardless of whatever motivates you to break the law. You don’t get to beat me or my wife, set my home on fire, or roll my car over because you don’t like what you saw on TV or heard on the radio.
Remember, in the world of nearly instant communications and mass media, you may be at risk from someone who feels strongly about Ferguson, even if you are thousands of miles away from the scene. Stay alert, stay professional, and stay alive.
And for the shopkeepers who can’t afford a Flamenwerfer may I suggest Dragon’s Breath?
And for the shopkeepers who can’t afford a Flamenwerfer may I suggest Dragon’s Breath?
The Grand Jury decision should get all the respect it deserves, from all quarters. As far as riot control techniques in cold weather are concerned, one exotic candidate that comes to mind is a jet engine. YouTube has a video ‘Riot Control Vehicle – Turbojt engine anti riot vehicle’ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GIZlMwmtPs). I can somewhat relate to the effect this might have from my own experience of sitting about 100 feet directly behind a small jet at an air show. Despite the fact that it was idling, I had to back away after less than a minute. The discomfort was a combination of the fast air flow, heat (…this was on a hot summer day, and 100 feet away the temperature wasn’t dangerously high), jet fuel fumes, but most importantly breathing difficulty. It felt as if the jet engine consumed most of the oxygen and didn’t leave enough of it for us poor folk sitting behind it. I wonder if any kind of testing has been done with jet engine riot control. If so, I wonder why it is still an exotic candidate at this time.
The Grand Jury decision should get all the respect it deserves, from all quarters. As far as riot control techniques in cold weather are concerned, one exotic candidate that comes to mind is a jet engine. YouTube has a video ‘Riot Control Vehicle – Turbojt engine anti riot vehicle’ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GIZlMwmtPs). I can somewhat relate to the effect this might have from my own experience of sitting about 100 feet directly behind a small jet at an air show. Despite the fact that it was idling, I had to back away after less than a minute. The discomfort was a combination of the fast air flow, heat (…this was on a hot summer day, and 100 feet away the temperature wasn’t dangerously high), jet fuel fumes, but most importantly breathing difficulty. It felt as if the jet engine consumed most of the oxygen and didn’t leave enough of it for us poor folk sitting behind it. I wonder if any kind of testing has been done with jet engine riot control. If so, I wonder why it is still an exotic candidate at this time.
The Grand Jury decision should get all the respect it deserves, from all quarters. As far as riot control techniques in cold weather are concerned, one exotic candidate that comes to mind is a jet engine. YouTube has a video ‘Riot Control Vehicle – Turbojt engine anti riot vehicle’ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GIZlMwmtPs). I can somewhat relate to the effect this might have from my own experience of sitting about 100 feet directly behind a small jet at an air show. Despite the fact that it was idling, I had to back away after less than a minute. The discomfort was a combination of the fast air flow, heat (…this was on a hot summer day, and 100 feet away the temperature wasn’t dangerously high), jet fuel fumes, but most importantly breathing difficulty. It felt as if the jet engine consumed most of the oxygen and didn’t leave enough of it for us poor folk sitting behind it. I wonder if any kind of testing has been done with jet engine riot control. If so, I wonder why it is still an exotic candidate at this time.
The Grand Jury decision should get all the respect it deserves, from all quarters. As far as riot control techniques in cold weather are concerned, one exotic candidate that comes to mind is a jet engine. YouTube has a video ‘Riot Control Vehicle – Turbojt engine anti riot vehicle’ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GIZlMwmtPs). I can somewhat relate to the effect this might have from my own experience of sitting about 100 feet directly behind a small jet at an air show. Despite the fact that it was idling, I had to back away after less than a minute. The discomfort was a combination of the fast air flow, heat (…this was on a hot summer day, and 100 feet away the temperature wasn’t dangerously high), jet fuel fumes, but most importantly breathing difficulty. It felt as if the jet engine consumed most of the oxygen and didn’t leave enough of it for us poor folk sitting behind it. I wonder if any kind of testing has been done with jet engine riot control. If so, I wonder why it is still an exotic candidate at this time.
When a person or group of people knowingly causes panic and an intended disruption of public services that is defined as terrorism and should dealt with accordingly.
When a person or group of people knowingly causes panic and an intended disruption of public services that is defined as terrorism and should dealt with accordingly.
If an indictment is handed down, it should be based on facts and not public opinion or fear of protests turning into riots.
And if the facts dictate no indictment than that should be the end of it.
I’m so tired of hearing about “the unarmed black teenager” and what a good person he was. We all know, Ya don’t need a gun to injure or kill someone. The Officer had severe facial injuries inflicted by said “large, unarmed black teenager” who from reports was trying to wrestle away the Officers gun and who had also just committed a strong armed robbery.
It’s like any excuse to make race an issue from the black community talking heads and how black people are arrested more than white people. Blah, blah, blah…Well hey, the solution is quite simple.
DONT BREAK THE LAW !! And when confronted by police, DO WHAT YOUR TOLD !!
As for the protesters gearing up, be peaceful, don’t destroy others property or loot or you will be arrested because you will be breaking the law.
If an indictment is handed down, it should be based on facts and not public opinion or fear of protests turning into riots.
And if the facts dictate no indictment than that should be the end of it.
I’m so tired of hearing about “the unarmed black teenager” and what a good person he was. We all know, Ya don’t need a gun to injure or kill someone. The Officer had severe facial injuries inflicted by said “large, unarmed black teenager” who from reports was trying to wrestle away the Officers gun and who had also just committed a strong armed robbery.
It’s like any excuse to make race an issue from the black community talking heads and how black people are arrested more than white people. Blah, blah, blah…Well hey, the solution is quite simple.
DONT BREAK THE LAW !! And when confronted by police, DO WHAT YOUR TOLD !!
As for the protesters gearing up, be peaceful, don’t destroy others property or loot or you will be arrested because you will be breaking the law.
I recall hoses being put to good use against protesters to the first gulf war. It was at the Air Reserve base in Minneapolis and some enterprising protestors thought it would be cool to bring ladders and get over the fence to run around on the flightline where the military aircraft were parked.
The security folk called for the base fire department who hosed down the protestors with what was the smallest hose they had. The ones they use for brush fires. Not only did it dampen the enthusiasm of the protestors in the sub zero temperatures, it put an immediate coat of ice on the ladders resulting in a scene that would take you back to the days of slapstick.
Needless to say, the evil military got the blame for the protestors’ injuries from slipping off the ladders.
I recall hoses being put to good use against protesters to the first gulf war. It was at the Air Reserve base in Minneapolis and some enterprising protestors thought it would be cool to bring ladders and get over the fence to run around on the flightline where the military aircraft were parked.
The security folk called for the base fire department who hosed down the protestors with what was the smallest hose they had. The ones they use for brush fires. Not only did it dampen the enthusiasm of the protestors in the sub zero temperatures, it put an immediate coat of ice on the ladders resulting in a scene that would take you back to the days of slapstick.
Needless to say, the evil military got the blame for the protestors’ injuries from slipping off the ladders.
I recall hoses being put to good use against protesters to the first gulf war. It was at the Air Reserve base in Minneapolis and some enterprising protestors thought it would be cool to bring ladders and get over the fence to run around on the flightline where the military aircraft were parked.
The security folk called for the base fire department who hosed down the protestors with what was the smallest hose they had. The ones they use for brush fires. Not only did it dampen the enthusiasm of the protestors in the sub zero temperatures, it put an immediate coat of ice on the ladders resulting in a scene that would take you back to the days of slapstick.
Needless to say, the evil military got the blame for the protestors’ injuries from slipping off the ladders.
Martin Luther King would be disgusted with what is happening and what is probably going to happen in Ferguson.
Martin Luther King would be disgusted with what is happening and what is probably going to happen in Ferguson.
Folks, do you recall how the main stream media was trumpeting that Michael Browns parents were invited to testify at the U.N. about the injustice involving their son and the police?
Have you heard any feed back in the news media since about the U.N. response to their testimony?
This may be the reason we’ve heard nothing in the news media about their experience.
http://patriotupdate.com/articles/michael-browns-case-vindicated-unhes-entitled-thug/
Folks, do you recall how the main stream media was trumpeting that Michael Browns parents were invited to testify at the U.N. about the injustice involving their son and the police?
Have you heard any feed back in the news media since about the U.N. response to their testimony?
This may be the reason we’ve heard nothing in the news media about their experience.
http://patriotupdate.com/articles/michael-browns-case-vindicated-unhes-entitled-thug/
Jeremy, I think you’ve got something there…I was going to offer up Col. Jeff Cooper’s idea he put forth long ago about police sniping the lead rioters with rifles chambered in .22LR to knock some steam out of, and some sense into, the masses, but your idea has more merit considering the circumstances. Heck, the fire department pumpers will be out there anyway!
Jeremy, I think you’ve got something there…I was going to offer up Col. Jeff Cooper’s idea he put forth long ago about police sniping the lead rioters with rifles chambered in .22LR to knock some steam out of, and some sense into, the masses, but your idea has more merit considering the circumstances. Heck, the fire department pumpers will be out there anyway!
Jeremy, I think you’ve got something there…I was going to offer up Col. Jeff Cooper’s idea he put forth long ago about police sniping the lead rioters with rifles chambered in .22LR to knock some steam out of, and some sense into, the masses, but your idea has more merit considering the circumstances. Heck, the fire department pumpers will be out there anyway!
I am sure that there are cases where white police officers crossed the line when dealing with minority suspects. I have no proof as the the numbers or frequency. However, if the problem is so serious as to have people willing to become members of a mob and attack the police, I would think they would at least pick an example where the suspect was innocent.
Brown we know was not a “good person” and had just been involved in a strong arm robbery. Why would any responsible person pick this example for such a protest? It does not make sense to me.
Just as the businesses that are being looted are businesses that are necessary for these neighborhoods, the friends of the people that live there. Why target the people that are necessary for the neighborhood to survive?
I am sure that there are cases where white police officers crossed the line when dealing with minority suspects. I have no proof as the the numbers or frequency. However, if the problem is so serious as to have people willing to become members of a mob and attack the police, I would think they would at least pick an example where the suspect was innocent.
Brown we know was not a “good person” and had just been involved in a strong arm robbery. Why would any responsible person pick this example for such a protest? It does not make sense to me.
Just as the businesses that are being looted are businesses that are necessary for these neighborhoods, the friends of the people that live there. Why target the people that are necessary for the neighborhood to survive?
After further searching, I can find no other stories to back up the one I linked earlier about Brown’s parents/U.N. I apologize if the link was a hoax story.
After further searching, I can find no other stories to back up the one I linked earlier about Brown’s parents/U.N. I apologize if the link was a hoax story.
After further searching, I can find no other stories to back up the one I linked earlier about Brown’s parents/U.N. I apologize if the link was a hoax story.
After further searching, I can find no other stories to back up the one I linked earlier about Brown’s parents/U.N. I apologize if the link was a hoax story.
There was a survey taken in May 2014 concerning how citizens felt about Ferguson city services.
The Police Department ranked high, 69% rated it good or excellent.
And now their families are in danger:
Wives and children of many police officers are in virtual hiding, as some face assault and death threats.
Fox Files investigator Chris Hayes talked with the wife of a Ferguson officer who said she`s not leaving town, because she fears people aren`t hearing the whole truth about her husband`s Department.
During the spring of 2014, the City of Ferguson commissioned a study to find out what residents thought about City services, including the Ferguson Police Department. It’s data that some fear could be met with threats of violence, at a time when police families are already telling their sons and daughters, ‘Don`t tell anyone you’re the child of a police officer.’
The police wife said, ‘We don`t have answers for them’ as she broke down. Then she continued, ‘It`s very frightening. Most people who have a family member who`s a police officer are very proud of what they do.’
She remains proud, in hiding. We protected her identity for her safety. She continued, ‘This is real and people actually do know how to find us and they do want to harm us.’
She’s received many strange calls, including this message, just before I met her, (Unknown caller) ‘Would you rather hear me coming out, coming out and robbing your house? And it would be like, it’d just be like silence man, you couldn’t hear nothing.”
She talked about looking over her shoulder, ‘Did they follow me here? Did I do a good enough job after work today of taking different routes, on my way home. Just letting my younger daughter leave the house…’
She says some families are leaving town. She says she`s decided to stay for Ferguson Police officers, but also for Ferguson residents, who ranked the police department as one of the best city services.
It’s in a survey no one’s talked about, headed by a Professor at University of Missouri-St. Louis. It’s from May of 2014, before any unrest, when the City of Ferguson wanted to know what residents thought about annexing an area north of 270.
Researchers asked registered voters and 61% of them said they believed Ferguson was “moving in the right direction.” Then citizens ranked city services, putting police third after the fire department and trash service (above six other departments like “code enforcement” and “streets,” at the bottom).
When you break it down by ward, even the area surrounding Canfield where Michael Brown died, 69% of those residents rated Ferguson Police good or excellent. Only 4% scored Ferguson police as poor.
The police wife fears the public is not hearing everything. When people complained about militarization of police, she said it wasn’t Ferguson police with the heavy gear. She said, ‘They didn`t have the equipment they needed.’ Not even helmets, until families pooled their money to buy them.
Now she wonders if the Department of Justice also only hears those screaming loudest. She added, ‘Well, it appears the DOJ made up their mind before they ever got started.’ She continued, ‘I`m very worried about what`s going to happen to the citizens and what`s going to happen to the businesses and what`s going to happen to the police officers. This is a good community with a long history and they love their community.’
What a sick society.
There was a survey taken in May 2014 concerning how citizens felt about Ferguson city services.
The Police Department ranked high, 69% rated it good or excellent.
And now their families are in danger:
Wives and children of many police officers are in virtual hiding, as some face assault and death threats.
Fox Files investigator Chris Hayes talked with the wife of a Ferguson officer who said she`s not leaving town, because she fears people aren`t hearing the whole truth about her husband`s Department.
During the spring of 2014, the City of Ferguson commissioned a study to find out what residents thought about City services, including the Ferguson Police Department. It’s data that some fear could be met with threats of violence, at a time when police families are already telling their sons and daughters, ‘Don`t tell anyone you’re the child of a police officer.’
The police wife said, ‘We don`t have answers for them’ as she broke down. Then she continued, ‘It`s very frightening. Most people who have a family member who`s a police officer are very proud of what they do.’
She remains proud, in hiding. We protected her identity for her safety. She continued, ‘This is real and people actually do know how to find us and they do want to harm us.’
She’s received many strange calls, including this message, just before I met her, (Unknown caller) ‘Would you rather hear me coming out, coming out and robbing your house? And it would be like, it’d just be like silence man, you couldn’t hear nothing.”
She talked about looking over her shoulder, ‘Did they follow me here? Did I do a good enough job after work today of taking different routes, on my way home. Just letting my younger daughter leave the house…’
She says some families are leaving town. She says she`s decided to stay for Ferguson Police officers, but also for Ferguson residents, who ranked the police department as one of the best city services.
It’s in a survey no one’s talked about, headed by a Professor at University of Missouri-St. Louis. It’s from May of 2014, before any unrest, when the City of Ferguson wanted to know what residents thought about annexing an area north of 270.
Researchers asked registered voters and 61% of them said they believed Ferguson was “moving in the right direction.” Then citizens ranked city services, putting police third after the fire department and trash service (above six other departments like “code enforcement” and “streets,” at the bottom).
When you break it down by ward, even the area surrounding Canfield where Michael Brown died, 69% of those residents rated Ferguson Police good or excellent. Only 4% scored Ferguson police as poor.
The police wife fears the public is not hearing everything. When people complained about militarization of police, she said it wasn’t Ferguson police with the heavy gear. She said, ‘They didn`t have the equipment they needed.’ Not even helmets, until families pooled their money to buy them.
Now she wonders if the Department of Justice also only hears those screaming loudest. She added, ‘Well, it appears the DOJ made up their mind before they ever got started.’ She continued, ‘I`m very worried about what`s going to happen to the citizens and what`s going to happen to the businesses and what`s going to happen to the police officers. This is a good community with a long history and they love their community.’
What a sick society.
‘Don`t tell anyone you’re the child of a police officer.’
The police wife said, ‘We don`t have answers for them’ as she broke down. Then she continued, ‘It`s very frightening. Most people who have a family member who`s a police officer are very proud of what they do.’
As are those of us who don’t have a family member who is a LEO.
I’ve traveled the world, met a lot of international LEOs, and ours are among the best. Right up there with Polizi.
Proud of ours indeed. They aren’t perfect, they are only among the best.
‘Don`t tell anyone you’re the child of a police officer.’
The police wife said, ‘We don`t have answers for them’ as she broke down. Then she continued, ‘It`s very frightening. Most people who have a family member who`s a police officer are very proud of what they do.’
As are those of us who don’t have a family member who is a LEO.
I’ve traveled the world, met a lot of international LEOs, and ours are among the best. Right up there with Polizi.
Proud of ours indeed. They aren’t perfect, they are only among the best.
‘Don`t tell anyone you’re the child of a police officer.’
The police wife said, ‘We don`t have answers for them’ as she broke down. Then she continued, ‘It`s very frightening. Most people who have a family member who`s a police officer are very proud of what they do.’
As are those of us who don’t have a family member who is a LEO.
I’ve traveled the world, met a lot of international LEOs, and ours are among the best. Right up there with Polizi.
Proud of ours indeed. They aren’t perfect, they are only among the best.
‘Don`t tell anyone you’re the child of a police officer.’
The police wife said, ‘We don`t have answers for them’ as she broke down. Then she continued, ‘It`s very frightening. Most people who have a family member who`s a police officer are very proud of what they do.’
As are those of us who don’t have a family member who is a LEO.
I’ve traveled the world, met a lot of international LEOs, and ours are among the best. Right up there with Polizi.
Proud of ours indeed. They aren’t perfect, they are only among the best.
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