In Rifle, one of my favorite gun magazines, I always enjoy reading Terry Wieland’s thoughtful column, “Walnut Hill.” In the May 2014 issue, he cited an important quote from a great authority on firearms, Bob Hagel.
The quote was, “You should not carry a rifle that will do the job when everything goes right; you should have one that works when everything goes wrong.”
Words to live by, and they don’t apply just to rifles.
It’s looking as if the FBI is going to scale down from .40 caliber Glocks to 9mm, starting next year. The 9mm has long been approved as an option for agents, and a recommended one for those who find the recoil of the .40 too difficult to manage in training and qualification, even though .40 Glocks have been standard issue for the Bureau since the late 1990s. The .45 caliber Glock 21, if privately purchased, is also approved, and I can think offhand of at least three agents I know who carry them, all “gun guys.” I hope that option remains for field agents if and when the Bureau goes to 9mm as its primary caliber.
It comes at a time when, as discussed here, there’s a push in the military to go back to .45 from the 9mm that has been standard issue for most elements since the mid-1980s. Non-expanding ball ammo being the norm for military pistols, I can certainly see the .45 argument: it’s what I’d definitely prefer if I suffered under the same limitations of bullet configuration. With law enforcement hollow points, current ammo has made the 9mm a much more viable defensive choice than it used to be. Of course, the same new designs make .40 S&W and .45 ACP more potent than they used to be, too.
Lower ammo cost, and smaller rounds allowing more cartridges on board, favor the 9mm over the .45 in a pistol, and the 5.56mm over 7.62mm in the rifle. Yet if there’s time for only one shot – whether it’s the winter venison or your own life that’s at stake – all of a sudden, more powerful cartridges seem more comforting.
Each of us has to assess our needs and our abilities, balance them, and make the right decision.
Where did you find your balance?
I am currently a full-time CHL and range instructor and trainer in Dallas. I teach people to shoot with SIG P238,P239,P229, Glock 19, Glock 17, Springfield XDM, XDS, XD, various CZ, Colt Govt Model .380, Smith M& P, 9 , 40, 45, Smith Model 10 and 64 or 66, Ruger SR9, whatever the flavor of the month.
Since 1995 I have carried, 6 days a week, under a suit and formal business attire , sloppy casual, “mow the lawn clothes”, “go to the gym ” clothes and church dress-up, basically three guns with little deviation:
Mostly 80 %, a steel frame Colt Officers Model .45, or a Series ’70 Colt Commander Model .45. For beach clothes or extra concealment or I go with a Colt Detective Special .38 with + P Speer Gold Dot Short barrel.
On the seventh day, usually Ill carry a full-size Colt Government Model .45.
If I’m teaching with revolvers a Smith Model 64 with + P loads. Always with a spare mag or a speed-loader, at least.
I choose steel frame guns- the weight is absolutely unnoticeable when carried in a Milt Sparks IWB with a good belt, but steel frame allows me faster shot to shot recovery. People who say they “cant hide” a 1911 haven’t been taught how to do it or hope for some gun-utopia which does not exist.
Calibers- I am confident in the .45 ACP with “Modern Magic Bullets”; they should expand to perhaps .6 inch or so – if they do not, they still make .45 inch diameter hole. My .38’s carry the ultimate “Modern Magic Bullet” in the Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel +P – an excellent choice for defense easily outstripping the 9 in such applications with a heavier bullet.
The purpose of bullets is to make holes; in my mind, the bigger the better.
The 1911 platform, regardless of source is skinny, easy to shoot, not complicated and utterly reliable with good mags – throw away the Mec-Gar and buy Wilsons. I find it is easy for small-handed and female shooters to master, easier than Glock with its awkward ergonomics, and the steel frame tames the recoil.
I have put a good deal of thought into my choices and they work well for me. As I tell my students, though: Figure out what works for YOU and practice with it. If you have a gunfight, I wont be there, YOU will.
Regards
GKT
Really enjoy these discussions. People need to be comfortable with their sidearm or they’ll stop carrying so it’s a very personal choice. A .22 is fine if that’s all you can handle, although I once saw a guy who’d been shot six times with a .22 walk to the ambulance.
Really enjoy these discussions. People need to be comfortable with their sidearm or they’ll stop carrying so it’s a very personal choice. A .22 is fine if that’s all you can handle, although I once saw a guy who’d been shot six times with a .22 walk to the ambulance.
Lotta folks here worshipping at the altar of .45 ACP, and some of the same will when they can’t carry their favorite Government model or Kimber, without hesitation trust their lives to .38 Special +P which is indistinguishable from the lowly standard P 9mm. XD
Lotta folks here worshipping at the altar of .45 ACP, and some of the same will when they can’t carry their favorite Government model or Kimber, without hesitation trust their lives to .38 Special +P which is indistinguishable from the lowly standard P 9mm. XD
I’ve been carrying firearms for a paycheck since 1969. In that time I’ve been issued/carried .38 Spl, .357 Mag, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 9mm and 10mm. So long as you put quality HP ammunition in vital areas, it doesn’t matter which you use. Likewise, if you fail to place your shots in vital areas, it also doesn’t matter which you use.
I really think the take away from the advice-which is really intended for big game hunting under varying conditions- is that if you’re heading for the barn or pasture for chores, dropping a handgun in your pocket is a good idea. If you’re heading for the barn or pasture because the critters or your dog are putting up a fuss, something larger is indicated.
In the manner I think the advice was intended, don’t hunt bears with a .223.
I’ve been carrying firearms for a paycheck since 1969. In that time I’ve been issued/carried .38 Spl, .357 Mag, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 9mm and 10mm. So long as you put quality HP ammunition in vital areas, it doesn’t matter which you use. Likewise, if you fail to place your shots in vital areas, it also doesn’t matter which you use.
I really think the take away from the advice-which is really intended for big game hunting under varying conditions- is that if you’re heading for the barn or pasture for chores, dropping a handgun in your pocket is a good idea. If you’re heading for the barn or pasture because the critters or your dog are putting up a fuss, something larger is indicated.
In the manner I think the advice was intended, don’t hunt bears with a .223.
I’ve been carrying firearms for a paycheck since 1969. In that time I’ve been issued/carried .38 Spl, .357 Mag, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 9mm and 10mm. So long as you put quality HP ammunition in vital areas, it doesn’t matter which you use. Likewise, if you fail to place your shots in vital areas, it also doesn’t matter which you use.
I really think the take away from the advice-which is really intended for big game hunting under varying conditions- is that if you’re heading for the barn or pasture for chores, dropping a handgun in your pocket is a good idea. If you’re heading for the barn or pasture because the critters or your dog are putting up a fuss, something larger is indicated.
In the manner I think the advice was intended, don’t hunt bears with a .223.
I’ve been carrying firearms for a paycheck since 1969. In that time I’ve been issued/carried .38 Spl, .357 Mag, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 9mm and 10mm. So long as you put quality HP ammunition in vital areas, it doesn’t matter which you use. Likewise, if you fail to place your shots in vital areas, it also doesn’t matter which you use.
I really think the take away from the advice-which is really intended for big game hunting under varying conditions- is that if you’re heading for the barn or pasture for chores, dropping a handgun in your pocket is a good idea. If you’re heading for the barn or pasture because the critters or your dog are putting up a fuss, something larger is indicated.
In the manner I think the advice was intended, don’t hunt bears with a .223.
I’ve been carrying firearms for a paycheck since 1969. In that time I’ve been issued/carried .38 Spl, .357 Mag, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 9mm and 10mm. So long as you put quality HP ammunition in vital areas, it doesn’t matter which you use. Likewise, if you fail to place your shots in vital areas, it also doesn’t matter which you use.
I really think the take away from the advice-which is really intended for big game hunting under varying conditions- is that if you’re heading for the barn or pasture for chores, dropping a handgun in your pocket is a good idea. If you’re heading for the barn or pasture because the critters or your dog are putting up a fuss, something larger is indicated.
In the manner I think the advice was intended, don’t hunt bears with a .223.
I’ve been carrying firearms for a paycheck since 1969. In that time I’ve been issued/carried .38 Spl, .357 Mag, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 9mm and 10mm. So long as you put quality HP ammunition in vital areas, it doesn’t matter which you use. Likewise, if you fail to place your shots in vital areas, it also doesn’t matter which you use.
I really think the take away from the advice-which is really intended for big game hunting under varying conditions- is that if you’re heading for the barn or pasture for chores, dropping a handgun in your pocket is a good idea. If you’re heading for the barn or pasture because the critters or your dog are putting up a fuss, something larger is indicated.
In the manner I think the advice was intended, don’t hunt bears with a .223.
Choosing a carry piece is kind of like picking the appropriate shoes for the task at hand.
In the house and basically always at hand Taurus 941 .22 mag Speer Gold Dot. (optimized for short barrel) Basically the same energy as a .38 Special and 8 shots!
Around the ranch and on patrol with the dogs, Bersa Thunder .380 with Remington Golden Saber.
CZ75 with Winchester Silver Tips. The wife is deadly with this pistol and it works flawlessly.
Sig P220 Generally loaded with hardball but one mag has Silvertips and the other mag has 450 SMC. Hiking boots with gaiters. The Sig goes when the threat level is higher or less known. The main thing is to stay competent and keep everything clean and ready for action
Choosing a carry piece is kind of like picking the appropriate shoes for the task at hand.
In the house and basically always at hand Taurus 941 .22 mag Speer Gold Dot. (optimized for short barrel) Basically the same energy as a .38 Special and 8 shots!
Around the ranch and on patrol with the dogs, Bersa Thunder .380 with Remington Golden Saber.
CZ75 with Winchester Silver Tips. The wife is deadly with this pistol and it works flawlessly.
Sig P220 Generally loaded with hardball but one mag has Silvertips and the other mag has 450 SMC. Hiking boots with gaiters. The Sig goes when the threat level is higher or less known. The main thing is to stay competent and keep everything clean and ready for action
Choosing a carry piece is kind of like picking the appropriate shoes for the task at hand.
In the house and basically always at hand Taurus 941 .22 mag Speer Gold Dot. (optimized for short barrel) Basically the same energy as a .38 Special and 8 shots!
Around the ranch and on patrol with the dogs, Bersa Thunder .380 with Remington Golden Saber.
CZ75 with Winchester Silver Tips. The wife is deadly with this pistol and it works flawlessly.
Sig P220 Generally loaded with hardball but one mag has Silvertips and the other mag has 450 SMC. Hiking boots with gaiters. The Sig goes when the threat level is higher or less known. The main thing is to stay competent and keep everything clean and ready for action
Choosing a carry piece is kind of like picking the appropriate shoes for the task at hand.
In the house and basically always at hand Taurus 941 .22 mag Speer Gold Dot. (optimized for short barrel) Basically the same energy as a .38 Special and 8 shots!
Around the ranch and on patrol with the dogs, Bersa Thunder .380 with Remington Golden Saber.
CZ75 with Winchester Silver Tips. The wife is deadly with this pistol and it works flawlessly.
Sig P220 Generally loaded with hardball but one mag has Silvertips and the other mag has 450 SMC. Hiking boots with gaiters. The Sig goes when the threat level is higher or less known. The main thing is to stay competent and keep everything clean and ready for action
Choosing a carry piece is kind of like picking the appropriate shoes for the task at hand.
In the house and basically always at hand Taurus 941 .22 mag Speer Gold Dot. (optimized for short barrel) Basically the same energy as a .38 Special and 8 shots!
Around the ranch and on patrol with the dogs, Bersa Thunder .380 with Remington Golden Saber.
CZ75 with Winchester Silver Tips. The wife is deadly with this pistol and it works flawlessly.
Sig P220 Generally loaded with hardball but one mag has Silvertips and the other mag has 450 SMC. Hiking boots with gaiters. The Sig goes when the threat level is higher or less known. The main thing is to stay competent and keep everything clean and ready for action
Choosing a carry piece is kind of like picking the appropriate shoes for the task at hand.
In the house and basically always at hand Taurus 941 .22 mag Speer Gold Dot. (optimized for short barrel) Basically the same energy as a .38 Special and 8 shots!
Around the ranch and on patrol with the dogs, Bersa Thunder .380 with Remington Golden Saber.
CZ75 with Winchester Silver Tips. The wife is deadly with this pistol and it works flawlessly.
Sig P220 Generally loaded with hardball but one mag has Silvertips and the other mag has 450 SMC. Hiking boots with gaiters. The Sig goes when the threat level is higher or less known. The main thing is to stay competent and keep everything clean and ready for action
I have a friend who tried using the .45 acp on deer and it was a massive failure with the 185 grain bullets which failed to penetrate deep enough to kill the animal. He shot one 6 times and it was still standing. It was hurt but still on its feet. He then climbed down out of his tree and shot it point blank in the head.
I have had no such trouble with the 9mm as its penetration with the 125 grain bullet is phenomenal unlike the slow moving anemic .45acp. My deer had rounds penetrate right through them and then they dropped over dead. For those who think the 9mm is not lethal try telling that to the dead deer I have shot.
At the end of WWII as stated in the book “The Inglis Diamond” the U.S. was shocked when they found out in their testing that the .45acp with hard ball would bounce off of a helmet at a scant 35 yards while the 9×19 penetrated it at an astounding 125 yards and might have done so even further but the skill of the shooters and accuracy of the gun made even further testing not practical.
Given the flatter trajectory and high capacity and superior penetration and lower recoil the 9mm is the superior round. People tend to shoot it more accurately as well because of its soft recoil which means they hit the vital areas more times than when using a more heavy recoiling caliber like the .40 or .45acp. Given that the 9mm is cheaper to buy people and departments practice more with it as well, just another one of the many reasons to switch over to the 9mm. Lets face cold hard facts the heart stops if hit with a .22 rim fire or hit with a 20mm cannon. Dead is dead not deader. Putting aside the patriotism that many times far surpasses even the fanaticism of Isis religious fervor the 9mm just makes more sense to issue and use period.
I have a friend who tried using the .45 acp on deer and it was a massive failure with the 185 grain bullets which failed to penetrate deep enough to kill the animal. He shot one 6 times and it was still standing. It was hurt but still on its feet. He then climbed down out of his tree and shot it point blank in the head.
I have had no such trouble with the 9mm as its penetration with the 125 grain bullet is phenomenal unlike the slow moving anemic .45acp. My deer had rounds penetrate right through them and then they dropped over dead. For those who think the 9mm is not lethal try telling that to the dead deer I have shot.
At the end of WWII as stated in the book “The Inglis Diamond” the U.S. was shocked when they found out in their testing that the .45acp with hard ball would bounce off of a helmet at a scant 35 yards while the 9×19 penetrated it at an astounding 125 yards and might have done so even further but the skill of the shooters and accuracy of the gun made even further testing not practical.
Given the flatter trajectory and high capacity and superior penetration and lower recoil the 9mm is the superior round. People tend to shoot it more accurately as well because of its soft recoil which means they hit the vital areas more times than when using a more heavy recoiling caliber like the .40 or .45acp. Given that the 9mm is cheaper to buy people and departments practice more with it as well, just another one of the many reasons to switch over to the 9mm. Lets face cold hard facts the heart stops if hit with a .22 rim fire or hit with a 20mm cannon. Dead is dead not deader. Putting aside the patriotism that many times far surpasses even the fanaticism of Isis religious fervor the 9mm just makes more sense to issue and use period.
I have a friend who tried using the .45 acp on deer and it was a massive failure with the 185 grain bullets which failed to penetrate deep enough to kill the animal. He shot one 6 times and it was still standing. It was hurt but still on its feet. He then climbed down out of his tree and shot it point blank in the head.
I have had no such trouble with the 9mm as its penetration with the 125 grain bullet is phenomenal unlike the slow moving anemic .45acp. My deer had rounds penetrate right through them and then they dropped over dead. For those who think the 9mm is not lethal try telling that to the dead deer I have shot.
At the end of WWII as stated in the book “The Inglis Diamond” the U.S. was shocked when they found out in their testing that the .45acp with hard ball would bounce off of a helmet at a scant 35 yards while the 9×19 penetrated it at an astounding 125 yards and might have done so even further but the skill of the shooters and accuracy of the gun made even further testing not practical.
Given the flatter trajectory and high capacity and superior penetration and lower recoil the 9mm is the superior round. People tend to shoot it more accurately as well because of its soft recoil which means they hit the vital areas more times than when using a more heavy recoiling caliber like the .40 or .45acp. Given that the 9mm is cheaper to buy people and departments practice more with it as well, just another one of the many reasons to switch over to the 9mm. Lets face cold hard facts the heart stops if hit with a .22 rim fire or hit with a 20mm cannon. Dead is dead not deader. Putting aside the patriotism that many times far surpasses even the fanaticism of Isis religious fervor the 9mm just makes more sense to issue and use period.
I have a friend who tried using the .45 acp on deer and it was a massive failure with the 185 grain bullets which failed to penetrate deep enough to kill the animal. He shot one 6 times and it was still standing. It was hurt but still on its feet. He then climbed down out of his tree and shot it point blank in the head.
I have had no such trouble with the 9mm as its penetration with the 125 grain bullet is phenomenal unlike the slow moving anemic .45acp. My deer had rounds penetrate right through them and then they dropped over dead. For those who think the 9mm is not lethal try telling that to the dead deer I have shot.
At the end of WWII as stated in the book “The Inglis Diamond” the U.S. was shocked when they found out in their testing that the .45acp with hard ball would bounce off of a helmet at a scant 35 yards while the 9×19 penetrated it at an astounding 125 yards and might have done so even further but the skill of the shooters and accuracy of the gun made even further testing not practical.
Given the flatter trajectory and high capacity and superior penetration and lower recoil the 9mm is the superior round. People tend to shoot it more accurately as well because of its soft recoil which means they hit the vital areas more times than when using a more heavy recoiling caliber like the .40 or .45acp. Given that the 9mm is cheaper to buy people and departments practice more with it as well, just another one of the many reasons to switch over to the 9mm. Lets face cold hard facts the heart stops if hit with a .22 rim fire or hit with a 20mm cannon. Dead is dead not deader. Putting aside the patriotism that many times far surpasses even the fanaticism of Isis religious fervor the 9mm just makes more sense to issue and use period.
I have a friend who tried using the .45 acp on deer and it was a massive failure with the 185 grain bullets which failed to penetrate deep enough to kill the animal. He shot one 6 times and it was still standing. It was hurt but still on its feet. He then climbed down out of his tree and shot it point blank in the head.
I have had no such trouble with the 9mm as its penetration with the 125 grain bullet is phenomenal unlike the slow moving anemic .45acp. My deer had rounds penetrate right through them and then they dropped over dead. For those who think the 9mm is not lethal try telling that to the dead deer I have shot.
At the end of WWII as stated in the book “The Inglis Diamond” the U.S. was shocked when they found out in their testing that the .45acp with hard ball would bounce off of a helmet at a scant 35 yards while the 9×19 penetrated it at an astounding 125 yards and might have done so even further but the skill of the shooters and accuracy of the gun made even further testing not practical.
Given the flatter trajectory and high capacity and superior penetration and lower recoil the 9mm is the superior round. People tend to shoot it more accurately as well because of its soft recoil which means they hit the vital areas more times than when using a more heavy recoiling caliber like the .40 or .45acp. Given that the 9mm is cheaper to buy people and departments practice more with it as well, just another one of the many reasons to switch over to the 9mm. Lets face cold hard facts the heart stops if hit with a .22 rim fire or hit with a 20mm cannon. Dead is dead not deader. Putting aside the patriotism that many times far surpasses even the fanaticism of Isis religious fervor the 9mm just makes more sense to issue and use period.
I have a friend who tried using the .45 acp on deer and it was a massive failure with the 185 grain bullets which failed to penetrate deep enough to kill the animal. He shot one 6 times and it was still standing. It was hurt but still on its feet. He then climbed down out of his tree and shot it point blank in the head.
I have had no such trouble with the 9mm as its penetration with the 125 grain bullet is phenomenal unlike the slow moving anemic .45acp. My deer had rounds penetrate right through them and then they dropped over dead. For those who think the 9mm is not lethal try telling that to the dead deer I have shot.
At the end of WWII as stated in the book “The Inglis Diamond” the U.S. was shocked when they found out in their testing that the .45acp with hard ball would bounce off of a helmet at a scant 35 yards while the 9×19 penetrated it at an astounding 125 yards and might have done so even further but the skill of the shooters and accuracy of the gun made even further testing not practical.
Given the flatter trajectory and high capacity and superior penetration and lower recoil the 9mm is the superior round. People tend to shoot it more accurately as well because of its soft recoil which means they hit the vital areas more times than when using a more heavy recoiling caliber like the .40 or .45acp. Given that the 9mm is cheaper to buy people and departments practice more with it as well, just another one of the many reasons to switch over to the 9mm. Lets face cold hard facts the heart stops if hit with a .22 rim fire or hit with a 20mm cannon. Dead is dead not deader. Putting aside the patriotism that many times far surpasses even the fanaticism of Isis religious fervor the 9mm just makes more sense to issue and use period.
Since the Army has decided to change from the 9 mm, I would not to see them simply move up to the .40 cal or back to the 45 auto,
The Army needs some serious stopping power – why not go to the 10 mm which originally the FBI found too powerful for them.
Since the Army has decided to change from the 9 mm, I would not to see them simply move up to the .40 cal or back to the 45 auto,
The Army needs some serious stopping power – why not go to the 10 mm which originally the FBI found too powerful for them.
Since the Army has decided to change from the 9 mm, I would not to see them simply move up to the .40 cal or back to the 45 auto,
The Army needs some serious stopping power – why not go to the 10 mm which originally the FBI found too powerful for them.
Since the Army has decided to change from the 9 mm, I would not to see them simply move up to the .40 cal or back to the 45 auto,
The Army needs some serious stopping power – why not go to the 10 mm which originally the FBI found too powerful for them.
Which bullet is really cheaper?
The cost of the bullets on uses for self defense (presumably high quality JHP’s) is negligible. You fill two mags and they are good almost forever. Not a continuing cost.
The cost of bullets for training and practice add up fast. And 180 grain 40 S&W have been less than $190 per thousand at the last few gun shows from severa vendors. That makes them cheaper than I can find 9mm, 380 ACP, and 32 ACP.
Which bullet is really cheaper?
The cost of the bullets on uses for self defense (presumably high quality JHP’s) is negligible. You fill two mags and they are good almost forever. Not a continuing cost.
The cost of bullets for training and practice add up fast. And 180 grain 40 S&W have been less than $190 per thousand at the last few gun shows from severa vendors. That makes them cheaper than I can find 9mm, 380 ACP, and 32 ACP.
Which bullet is really cheaper?
The cost of the bullets on uses for self defense (presumably high quality JHP’s) is negligible. You fill two mags and they are good almost forever. Not a continuing cost.
The cost of bullets for training and practice add up fast. And 180 grain 40 S&W have been less than $190 per thousand at the last few gun shows from severa vendors. That makes them cheaper than I can find 9mm, 380 ACP, and 32 ACP.
I disagree with most on handgun recoil. The 9mm is harsher in my hand than the .40 & .45. My guess is because of the lower, subsonic velocities and bullet mass, but it just may be a personal preference.
Even the 9×18 Mak round is sharper. I like them all but prefer .38 and larger.
Thoughts?
I disagree with most on handgun recoil. The 9mm is harsher in my hand than the .40 & .45. My guess is because of the lower, subsonic velocities and bullet mass, but it just may be a personal preference.
Even the 9×18 Mak round is sharper. I like them all but prefer .38 and larger.
Thoughts?
I disagree with most on handgun recoil. The 9mm is harsher in my hand than the .40 & .45. My guess is because of the lower, subsonic velocities and bullet mass, but it just may be a personal preference.
Even the 9×18 Mak round is sharper. I like them all but prefer .38 and larger.
Thoughts?
I disagree with most on handgun recoil. The 9mm is harsher in my hand than the .40 & .45. My guess is because of the lower, subsonic velocities and bullet mass, but it just may be a personal preference.
Even the 9×18 Mak round is sharper. I like them all but prefer .38 and larger.
Thoughts?
Greg Tag – in all your Glock lifting, didja ever hoist a 30 S? I, too thought Glock’s were ‘unusual’ until I got my “S.” I believe it would dispel your notion of Glock’s “awkward ergonomics.” As for the .45 being tough on follow-up shots, I have found this Glock to be extremely friendly. It sure makes me look better than I am!
Greg Tag – in all your Glock lifting, didja ever hoist a 30 S? I, too thought Glock’s were ‘unusual’ until I got my “S.” I believe it would dispel your notion of Glock’s “awkward ergonomics.” As for the .45 being tough on follow-up shots, I have found this Glock to be extremely friendly. It sure makes me look better than I am!
Greg Tag – in all your Glock lifting, didja ever hoist a 30 S? I, too thought Glock’s were ‘unusual’ until I got my “S.” I believe it would dispel your notion of Glock’s “awkward ergonomics.” As for the .45 being tough on follow-up shots, I have found this Glock to be extremely friendly. It sure makes me look better than I am!
357 Sig for carry and home defense. My bedstand weapon is a .357 Mag revolver. I want the “struck by lightning” effect if my life or my loved ones are in danger.
The 357 Sig (Glock) justs points well and is very accurate.
357 Sig for carry and home defense. My bedstand weapon is a .357 Mag revolver. I want the “struck by lightning” effect if my life or my loved ones are in danger.
The 357 Sig (Glock) justs points well and is very accurate.
357 Sig for carry and home defense. My bedstand weapon is a .357 Mag revolver. I want the “struck by lightning” effect if my life or my loved ones are in danger.
The 357 Sig (Glock) justs points well and is very accurate.
357 Sig for carry and home defense. My bedstand weapon is a .357 Mag revolver. I want the “struck by lightning” effect if my life or my loved ones are in danger.
The 357 Sig (Glock) justs points well and is very accurate.
357 Sig for carry and home defense. My bedstand weapon is a .357 Mag revolver. I want the “struck by lightning” effect if my life or my loved ones are in danger.
The 357 Sig (Glock) justs points well and is very accurate.
Love this topic. I have unfortunately been shot with both .45 XTP and 9mm GDHP. Both hurt. Neither killed me..both friendly fire! I carry M&P45 and S&W SD9VE (don’t laugh.. VERY accurate with any 9mm fodder I give it).. my wife has an SD9 in her purse as well and you will NOT talk her into any other gun. Getting off the X and heading for cover and changing her opponent’s OODA loop is all she cares about..including getting 1/2 a mag into him. I love my 10 rounds in the M&P 45.. but the 17 in the SD are comforting.. and lighter too. My SD rifle is a Marlin 336C 35 Remington lever gun.. Can’t afford an AR but I have 1,000 rounds loaded for this guy.. FAST handler and dead on to 100 yards.. real instinctive handler..
Love this topic. I have unfortunately been shot with both .45 XTP and 9mm GDHP. Both hurt. Neither killed me..both friendly fire! I carry M&P45 and S&W SD9VE (don’t laugh.. VERY accurate with any 9mm fodder I give it).. my wife has an SD9 in her purse as well and you will NOT talk her into any other gun. Getting off the X and heading for cover and changing her opponent’s OODA loop is all she cares about..including getting 1/2 a mag into him. I love my 10 rounds in the M&P 45.. but the 17 in the SD are comforting.. and lighter too. My SD rifle is a Marlin 336C 35 Remington lever gun.. Can’t afford an AR but I have 1,000 rounds loaded for this guy.. FAST handler and dead on to 100 yards.. real instinctive handler..
Summer carry is 9mm+p or 380 Auto
Winter carry is 10mm Auto, >600 ft-lbs, or 9mm+p
When traveling some distance by vehicle, the FN FiveseveN pistol rides along as well.
Summer carry is 9mm+p or 380 Auto
Winter carry is 10mm Auto, >600 ft-lbs, or 9mm+p
When traveling some distance by vehicle, the FN FiveseveN pistol rides along as well.
Summer carry is 9mm+p or 380 Auto
Winter carry is 10mm Auto, >600 ft-lbs, or 9mm+p
When traveling some distance by vehicle, the FN FiveseveN pistol rides along as well.
Summer carry is 9mm+p or 380 Auto
Winter carry is 10mm Auto, >600 ft-lbs, or 9mm+p
When traveling some distance by vehicle, the FN FiveseveN pistol rides along as well.
Summer carry is 9mm+p or 380 Auto
Winter carry is 10mm Auto, >600 ft-lbs, or 9mm+p
When traveling some distance by vehicle, the FN FiveseveN pistol rides along as well.
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