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	<title>Comments on: NYPD SHOOTING: PART II</title>
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	<description>Massad Ayoob on Firearms, Self-defense, and the 2nd Amendment</description>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2012/09/02/nypd-shooting-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-14096</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Replace the cops with an armed non-LEO citizen in the same circumstances. Having an armed murderer turn and point the weapon at them? If they had hosed down several innocents in their attempt at self defense, does anyone doubt there would be serious legal ramifications, even criminal charges?

Why do the police get a lower standard when they are forced to defend themselves?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replace the cops with an armed non-LEO citizen in the same circumstances. Having an armed murderer turn and point the weapon at them? If they had hosed down several innocents in their attempt at self defense, does anyone doubt there would be serious legal ramifications, even criminal charges?</p>
<p>Why do the police get a lower standard when they are forced to defend themselves?</p>
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		<title>By: ralph k.</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph k.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; the heart-pounding danger of a known murderer pointing a .45 automatic at you &quot;
i would bet they &quot;just saw a gun&quot;. probably an experienced individual as yourself could make that quick distinction, but most just see a gun, period. quite frankly, it wouldnt matter what caliber he had, same response though.

 &quot;they draw their 9mm pistols and light him up&quot;
you seem to inferring his is bigger than ours, justification for proceeding amongst a crowd of people. everything i have learned about discharging firearms, they violated coopers 4th law of gun safety. &quot;Know what it (target) is, what is in line with it, and what is behind it&quot;. yes, they are in a life threatening situation, but it seems they are more willing to put everyone elses life in jeopardy to save their own skin. not exactly heroic in my estimation, nor defensible.

as someone else mentioned above, nypd just killed an unarmed hostage recently, and also another responder crashed into a stopped vehicle causing injury to the passenger and himself responding to the same incident. more cowboy attitude.

being a cop isnt an easy task to be sure. however, the old &#039;to serve and protect&#039; cops are only in the history books. i blame the above reactions on the recent (since 9/11) shift of the militarization of the police nationwide. the old maxim learned from a vietnam vet/marine i heard was &#039;destroy, then search&#039; not the reverse. in full play now. 

as to major bloomberg, too bad he wasnt there to be collateral damage.  he deserves nothing less. a frightfully intellectually dishonest man. nuff said.

thank you for your insightful critique on this incident. your voice is one of truth in the wilderness of lies and misdirection that i would listen to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; the heart-pounding danger of a known murderer pointing a .45 automatic at you &#8221;<br />
i would bet they &#8220;just saw a gun&#8221;. probably an experienced individual as yourself could make that quick distinction, but most just see a gun, period. quite frankly, it wouldnt matter what caliber he had, same response though.</p>
<p> &#8220;they draw their 9mm pistols and light him up&#8221;<br />
you seem to inferring his is bigger than ours, justification for proceeding amongst a crowd of people. everything i have learned about discharging firearms, they violated coopers 4th law of gun safety. &#8220;Know what it (target) is, what is in line with it, and what is behind it&#8221;. yes, they are in a life threatening situation, but it seems they are more willing to put everyone elses life in jeopardy to save their own skin. not exactly heroic in my estimation, nor defensible.</p>
<p>as someone else mentioned above, nypd just killed an unarmed hostage recently, and also another responder crashed into a stopped vehicle causing injury to the passenger and himself responding to the same incident. more cowboy attitude.</p>
<p>being a cop isnt an easy task to be sure. however, the old &#8216;to serve and protect&#8217; cops are only in the history books. i blame the above reactions on the recent (since 9/11) shift of the militarization of the police nationwide. the old maxim learned from a vietnam vet/marine i heard was &#8216;destroy, then search&#8217; not the reverse. in full play now. </p>
<p>as to major bloomberg, too bad he wasnt there to be collateral damage.  he deserves nothing less. a frightfully intellectually dishonest man. nuff said.</p>
<p>thank you for your insightful critique on this incident. your voice is one of truth in the wilderness of lies and misdirection that i would listen to.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2012/09/02/nypd-shooting-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-14070</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It’s for sure and for certain that the officers wouldn’t have fired as many rounds if they were still armed with revolvers.&quot;

ummm, yes... sans reloading]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s for sure and for certain that the officers wouldn’t have fired as many rounds if they were still armed with revolvers.&#8221;</p>
<p>ummm, yes&#8230; sans reloading</p>
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