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	<description>Massad Ayoob on Firearms, Self-defense, and the 2nd Amendment</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas H. Bunner</title>
		<link>http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/07/01/good-news-from-arizona/comment-page-1/#comment-1501</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas H. Bunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mas,

Long have I followed your articles and abided by your advice. Many times I have read your articles and shivered,  thinking any of these people could have been me! I credit you  totally for educating me on the law, courtroom confrontations, and the stark realities of self defence with a firearm. My ignorance of these matters was appalling to say the least! I now keep reams of your articles (dating back almost twenty years) on  file in three ring binders. If ever I am faced with a travesty of justice as Mr. Fish had to endure, I at least have a fighting chance, and will make said articles available to my lawyer. God bless and keep you! You are a God send to the law abiding CCW citizen!

Years ago when this shooting was first reported I was stunned and amazed that Mr. Fish was being brought to trial for what was clearly a self defence shooting. When he was found guilty I was absolutely floored at the abortion of justice. 

Upon reading further about the circumstances, Fish with his back to a ravine, amongst other things, I was even further amazed at the lunacy involved in his conviction.  I was overjoyed at the overturning of this case. I shortly will be making a donation to his legal defence fund. 

T.H. Bunner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mas,</p>
<p>Long have I followed your articles and abided by your advice. Many times I have read your articles and shivered,  thinking any of these people could have been me! I credit you  totally for educating me on the law, courtroom confrontations, and the stark realities of self defence with a firearm. My ignorance of these matters was appalling to say the least! I now keep reams of your articles (dating back almost twenty years) on  file in three ring binders. If ever I am faced with a travesty of justice as Mr. Fish had to endure, I at least have a fighting chance, and will make said articles available to my lawyer. God bless and keep you! You are a God send to the law abiding CCW citizen!</p>
<p>Years ago when this shooting was first reported I was stunned and amazed that Mr. Fish was being brought to trial for what was clearly a self defence shooting. When he was found guilty I was absolutely floored at the abortion of justice. </p>
<p>Upon reading further about the circumstances, Fish with his back to a ravine, amongst other things, I was even further amazed at the lunacy involved in his conviction.  I was overjoyed at the overturning of this case. I shortly will be making a donation to his legal defence fund. </p>
<p>T.H. Bunner</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steps up onto the soap box! This is why we must take back our states and away from this liberal idiocy of gun control. It is not just avocado eating Californians it is this whole culture that moves in when people move to the rural areas. They file lawsuits against pig farmers and cattle farms for the smell but these farms were there long before these carpetbaggers came calling. We have to take back the town councils and the school boards and elect real judges that know the law and respect it. People who know guns know that different bullets are used for different targets and that if threatened you do not shoot the gun out of someone’s hand like on TV you shoot center body mass to kill. We have seen to many miscarriages of justice in the last few years of gun owners. We must be mindful that if we give up freedoms for some small feeling of safety we deserve neither. 
Sorry MAS some days I have more control then others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steps up onto the soap box! This is why we must take back our states and away from this liberal idiocy of gun control. It is not just avocado eating Californians it is this whole culture that moves in when people move to the rural areas. They file lawsuits against pig farmers and cattle farms for the smell but these farms were there long before these carpetbaggers came calling. We have to take back the town councils and the school boards and elect real judges that know the law and respect it. People who know guns know that different bullets are used for different targets and that if threatened you do not shoot the gun out of someone’s hand like on TV you shoot center body mass to kill. We have seen to many miscarriages of justice in the last few years of gun owners. We must be mindful that if we give up freedoms for some small feeling of safety we deserve neither.<br />
Sorry MAS some days I have more control then others.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Feelgood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Feelgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you bagging on CA, let me remind y&#039;all that Coconino County and the Flagstaff area have been infested by social weirdos and political malcontents (hippies) for decades.  The relevance of that fact is still in question, however, given that most of the wrongdoing toward Mr. Fish was at the hands of precisely TWO men:  the judge and the prosecutor, neither of whom hail from CA, to my knowledge.  I cast a portion of blame on the defender, for sheer incompetence.

A humble defense from your friendly neighborhood Iowan.

As an aside (or rather to get back on topic), I&#039;ve always thought the outcome of this &quot;trial&quot; hinged on the choice of ammo.  My first thought after watching the Dateline piece these many years ago was that Mr. Ayoob would&#039;ve been an exceptional witness for the defense.  Perhaps they&#039;ll get in touch with you this time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you bagging on CA, let me remind y&#8217;all that Coconino County and the Flagstaff area have been infested by social weirdos and political malcontents (hippies) for decades.  The relevance of that fact is still in question, however, given that most of the wrongdoing toward Mr. Fish was at the hands of precisely TWO men:  the judge and the prosecutor, neither of whom hail from CA, to my knowledge.  I cast a portion of blame on the defender, for sheer incompetence.</p>
<p>A humble defense from your friendly neighborhood Iowan.</p>
<p>As an aside (or rather to get back on topic), I&#8217;ve always thought the outcome of this &#8220;trial&#8221; hinged on the choice of ammo.  My first thought after watching the Dateline piece these many years ago was that Mr. Ayoob would&#8217;ve been an exceptional witness for the defense.  Perhaps they&#8217;ll get in touch with you this time around.</p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about time. That railroad needs to be derailed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about time. That railroad needs to be derailed.</p>
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		<title>By: BikerRN</title>
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		<dc:creator>BikerRN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mas,

The influx of avacado eating californians has altered the political and social make-up of what was once a great state.

With that said, I wish they&#039;d all go back to CA. From last reports, CA is in need of more airheads, as they have fallen behind on their &quot;Airhead Quota&quot;. The Airheads are used to keep the state above ocean level.

With all that said, this was injustice beyond comprehension to me. I have spent hours thinking about Mr. (now inmate) Fish&#039;s actions and don&#039;t know if I would or could do anything different.

There but for the grace of God go I.

Biker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mas,</p>
<p>The influx of avacado eating californians has altered the political and social make-up of what was once a great state.</p>
<p>With that said, I wish they&#8217;d all go back to CA. From last reports, CA is in need of more airheads, as they have fallen behind on their &#8220;Airhead Quota&#8221;. The Airheads are used to keep the state above ocean level.</p>
<p>With all that said, this was injustice beyond comprehension to me. I have spent hours thinking about Mr. (now inmate) Fish&#8217;s actions and don&#8217;t know if I would or could do anything different.</p>
<p>There but for the grace of God go I.</p>
<p>Biker</p>
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		<title>By: woodsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>woodsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WoW, Hey Mas,  just moved to Arizona from Ohio couple weeks ago. What a welcome change of pace. (Prescott area) Permit didnt carry over after drivers license change, but no worries, when I carry in the open nobody even bats an eye. Only compliments on the leatherwork. Just wanted to let you know your one of the few voices of sanity still out there, just read May/June and Jul/Aug BHM along with e-mail,  Am always happy to see simple, straitforward good advice.  Thank you,  and Thank you to all the rest at BHM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WoW, Hey Mas,  just moved to Arizona from Ohio couple weeks ago. What a welcome change of pace. (Prescott area) Permit didnt carry over after drivers license change, but no worries, when I carry in the open nobody even bats an eye. Only compliments on the leatherwork. Just wanted to let you know your one of the few voices of sanity still out there, just read May/June and Jul/Aug BHM along with e-mail,  Am always happy to see simple, straitforward good advice.  Thank you,  and Thank you to all the rest at BHM</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Martell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erich Martell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that&#039;s good news. Amazing that the Court of Appeals ruled that way on the evidentiary issue. Let&#039;s see whether the AZ SCt takes review on the State&#039;s request or lets that opinion stand . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s good news. Amazing that the Court of Appeals ruled that way on the evidentiary issue. Let&#8217;s see whether the AZ SCt takes review on the State&#8217;s request or lets that opinion stand . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This case was brought up in my CCW class and it scared the heck out of a lot of us.  I know here in CA many folks recommend only shooting ammo that has &quot;Personal Defense&quot;, &quot;Defense&quot;, &quot;Personal Protection&quot; or some other such nonesense printed on the box because of how stupid juries are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This case was brought up in my CCW class and it scared the heck out of a lot of us.  I know here in CA many folks recommend only shooting ammo that has &#8220;Personal Defense&#8221;, &#8220;Defense&#8221;, &#8220;Personal Protection&#8221; or some other such nonesense printed on the box because of how stupid juries are.</p>
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		<title>By: Mas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, he had lots of support, but he also has about a half million in legal bills.

If you live in Virginia, I&#039;d suggest that you Google VCDL, the Virginia Citizens&#039; Defense League. Phil van Cleave and his team there have done a wonderful job for their members.

best,
Mas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, he had lots of support, but he also has about a half million in legal bills.</p>
<p>If you live in Virginia, I&#8217;d suggest that you Google VCDL, the Virginia Citizens&#8217; Defense League. Phil van Cleave and his team there have done a wonderful job for their members.</p>
<p>best,<br />
Mas</p>
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		<title>By: Dan A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect much of this has been the influx of Californians moving en mass to AZ and bringing their own brand of politics. I suppose the guy was expected to call 911 and wait for the police to promptly rappel in. 

As I recall the aggrivating circumstance, both for the assailant and the press, was that he had to shoot the guy&#039;s dog first. Whenever I go to state or county parks, I&#039;m amazed with the frequency of people ignoring leash laws. I had to pepperspray some idiot&#039;s dog once, and all I got was &quot;sorry&quot;. If a windy day would&#039;ve rendered the spray useless, this could&#039;ve been my story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect much of this has been the influx of Californians moving en mass to AZ and bringing their own brand of politics. I suppose the guy was expected to call 911 and wait for the police to promptly rappel in. </p>
<p>As I recall the aggrivating circumstance, both for the assailant and the press, was that he had to shoot the guy&#8217;s dog first. Whenever I go to state or county parks, I&#8217;m amazed with the frequency of people ignoring leash laws. I had to pepperspray some idiot&#8217;s dog once, and all I got was &#8220;sorry&#8221;. If a windy day would&#8217;ve rendered the spray useless, this could&#8217;ve been my story.</p>
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