Comments on: THE PRICE OF CARELESSNESS http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/05/25/the-price-of-carelessness/ Massad Ayoob on Firearms, Self-defense, and the 2nd Amendment Wed, 23 May 2012 21:12:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Fred Bartlett http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/05/25/the-price-of-carelessness/comment-page-1/#comment-2036 Fred Bartlett Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:56:17 +0000 http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/05/25/the-price-of-carelessness/#comment-2036 Resting a shotgun on a toe or toe pad violates all safety rules. It is only safely practiced and meant for single barrel or double barrel over-and-under shotguns broken open on a skeet, trap or sporting clays range. Even then, I don't do it. There are special toe pads sold for this purpose. I guess one with Kevlar with a steel plate may have helped this gentleman. I have never seen anyone put their muzzle on their shoe with a pump or automatic shotgun. Look at the cover of "The Gun Digest Book of Trap and Skeet Shooting", 4th ed, and you will see that it is commonly done with break open shotguns. It is insane with a pump or automatic. Resting a shotgun on a toe or toe pad violates all safety rules. It is only safely practiced and meant for single barrel or double barrel over-and-under shotguns broken open on a skeet, trap or sporting clays range. Even then, I don’t do it. There are special toe pads sold for this purpose. I guess one with Kevlar with a steel plate may have helped this gentleman. I have never seen anyone put their muzzle on their shoe with a pump or automatic shotgun.

Look at the cover of “The Gun Digest Book of Trap and Skeet Shooting”, 4th ed, and you will see that it is commonly done with break open shotguns. It is insane with a pump or automatic.

]]> By: L. T. Wakeling http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/05/25/the-price-of-carelessness/comment-page-1/#comment-1975 L. T. Wakeling Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:22:47 +0000 http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/05/25/the-price-of-carelessness/#comment-1975 When I teach NRA firearm courses I stress to the students "what is the first thing you do when you pickup a firearm?" You get all kinds of answers and then I tell them "You point the muzzle in a safe direction first because if the gun goes off no one will get shot" It takes three thing to happen for a firearm to discharge. You need a gun, you need ammunition and you need a finger. If any one of the three are missing the gun won't go off. Treat every firearm as a loaded firearm and only point it in a safe direction. Yes I have had an ND one time only thank God. I was working on a feeding problem with a pump 32-20 rifle with a live round not a dummy round, hand off the trigger but in front of trigger guard and working the action. Gave it a hard tug and guess what? My hand sliped brushed the trigger and I shot the ceeling. I only use Dummy rounds from that day forward 50 years ago. When I teach NRA firearm courses I stress to the students “what is the first thing you do when you pickup a firearm?” You get all kinds of answers and then I tell them “You point the muzzle in a safe direction first because if the gun goes off no one will get shot”
It takes three thing to happen for a firearm to discharge. You need a gun, you need ammunition and you need a finger. If any one of the three are missing the gun won’t go off. Treat every firearm as a loaded firearm and only point it in a safe direction.
Yes I have had an ND one time only thank God. I was working on a feeding problem with a pump 32-20 rifle with a live round not a dummy round, hand off the trigger but in front of trigger guard and working the action. Gave it a hard tug and guess what? My hand sliped brushed the trigger and I shot the ceeling. I only use Dummy rounds from that day forward 50 years ago.

]]> By: castor http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/05/25/the-price-of-carelessness/comment-page-1/#comment-1702 castor Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:31:48 +0000 http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/05/25/the-price-of-carelessness/#comment-1702 I had a 'could-have-been' that really scared me. I used to put the bolt in the receiver, leaving it open for safety, and slip the mag onto the rifle when I was having my last cup of coffee before I went hunting. I did so to ensure I didn't get all the way out to the bush before discovering I had left one of them at home. One morning I got the 'remove the mag, close the bolt' sequence out order without realizing it when I took the rifle out of the house. All the way to the bush the rifle sat in the truck with a live round up the spout. 'Thank God I didn't click the trigger' was the first thing I thought when I opened the bolt in the bush and saw the loaded round. "There but for the grace of God ...." I had a ‘could-have-been’ that really scared me. I used to put the bolt in the receiver, leaving it open for safety, and slip the mag onto the rifle when I was having my last cup of coffee before I went hunting. I did so to ensure I didn’t get all the way out to the bush before discovering I had left one of them at home. One morning I got the ‘remove the mag, close the bolt’ sequence out order without realizing it when I took the rifle out of the house. All the way to the bush the rifle sat in the truck with a live round up the spout. ‘Thank God I didn’t click the trigger’ was the first thing I thought when I opened the bolt in the bush and saw the loaded round. “There but for the grace of God ….”

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