Comments on: Columbine: Lessons Learned, Lessons Lost http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/04/19/columbine-lessons-learned-lessons-lost/ Massad Ayoob on Firearms, Self-defense, and the 2nd Amendment Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:58:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Thomas H. Bunner http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/04/19/columbine-lessons-learned-lessons-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1321 Thomas H. Bunner Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:32:14 +0000 http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/04/19/columbine-lessons-learned-lessons-lost/#comment-1321 Mas, God bless you. I have read and applied your stuff for years. Thomas Mas,

God bless you. I have read and applied your stuff for years.

Thomas

]]> By: Mas http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/04/19/columbine-lessons-learned-lessons-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1270 Mas Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:45:45 +0000 http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/04/19/columbine-lessons-learned-lessons-lost/#comment-1270 Not wrong on Columbine, Loren. We agree that swift and positive entry by police should be the protocol in situations such as these. It wasn't "three cops pinned down by 2 kids." It was 2 cops with pistols pinned down by carbine fire at 70-some yards -- and returning fire with their handguns instead of retreating -- until the third cop, with a carbine of his own, reached that piece of the complicated incident and tilted the balance. Not wrong on Columbine, Loren.

We agree that swift and positive entry by police should be the protocol in situations such as these.

It wasn’t “three cops pinned down by 2 kids.” It was 2 cops with pistols pinned down by carbine fire at 70-some yards — and returning fire with their handguns instead of retreating — until the third cop, with a carbine of his own, reached that piece of the complicated incident and tilted the balance.

]]> By: loren massie http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/04/19/columbine-lessons-learned-lessons-lost/comment-page-1/#comment-1269 loren massie Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:26:24 +0000 http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2009/04/19/columbine-lessons-learned-lessons-lost/#comment-1269 Apparently, according to my cop nephew, you're a legend amoung police forces but you wrong on Columbine. Your "them and us" attitude is showing. Three cops pinned down by 2 kids? Doubt it. That's a very large school with numerous entrances all over the building The plain fact is an armed Jefco deputy stationed at the school failed to enter the school and protect his charges because he feared for his own safety. Failure to do your duty because you fear for your life is the definition of cowardice. All additional police also failed to enter and instead waited for SWAT to show up. All the while these 2 punks systematically executed more kids. What I and any parent expects from police in a situation like this is they put their life on the line. Go in there and be a man - period. Apparently, according to my cop nephew, you’re a legend amoung police forces but you wrong on Columbine. Your “them and us” attitude is showing.
Three cops pinned down by 2 kids? Doubt it.
That’s a very large school with numerous entrances all over the building The plain fact is an armed Jefco deputy stationed at the school failed to enter the school and protect his charges because he feared for his own safety. Failure to do your duty because you fear for your life is the definition of cowardice. All additional police also failed to enter and instead waited for SWAT to show up. All the while these 2 punks systematically executed more kids.
What I and any parent expects from police in a situation like this is they put their life on the line.
Go in there and be a man – period.

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