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Massad Ayoob on Guns


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Massad Ayoob

Dillinger Lessons

I’m writing this in Chicago, one of the locales where Johnny Depp and the rest are filming on location for their upcoming movie about John Dillinger and Baby Face Nelson. Didn’t catch the filming, but snapped a shot of one of the production company’s camera booms still in place at the intersection of Clark, Sheffield, and Newport, on a block where the architecture was still true to the period, the early 1930s. I was told that with the city’s permission, the film-makers had pulled up modern parking meters, and laid down expensive mats that duplicated cobblestone.

Camera boom for Dillinger movie.

Historian Dary Matera called Dillinger “America’s first celebrity criminal,” a title that Jesse James and Billy the Kid might have taken issue with. Stopping at the Biograph Theater where Dillinger was killed in 1934 (now the remodeled Victory Gardens Theater), I was reminded that this much-feared bandit and his gang tasted the lead of armed citizens who shot back during their depredations.

The Biograph Theater

The Biograph Theater, left, still stands. On a July evening in 1934, John Dillinger was shot and killed at the mouth of the alley seen in right foreground. The restaurant seen in photo occupies space that was a grocery store at the time.

When they robbed a bank in South Bend, Indiana, and shot it out with police, Dillinger, Nelson and the rest of their gang were unscathed by the gunfire of the lawmen. However, a jeweler located near the bank did better. He shot Baby Face Nelson square in the back, but the little bullet from his target .22 handgun was stopped by Nelson’s steel vest, and a burst from Nelson’s submachine gun drove him back into his store. He emerged again and fired a shot that “creased the skull” of Dillinger henchman Homer Van Meter, knocking him so silly that Dillinger had to pull Van Meter out from behind the wheel before the gang could make their getaway.

In another holdup, Dillinger and one of his cohorts were each shot in the shoulder by an elderly judge, from his office window, using what the newspapers of the time called an “antique revolver.” In yet another incident, a fleeing Dillinger colleague was captured at gunpoint by two armed citizens. He pulled a gun on them and opened fire; one of those ordinary citizens, a local farmer, promptly blew the top of the criminal’s head off with a double-barrel 20 gauge shotgun.

It will be interesting to see if any of these classic examples of armed citizens successfully taking on the most desperate, heavily armed criminals of their time (and winning!) will be depicted in the forthcoming movie. I’ve written about them in greater detail in my “Ayoob Files” column in American Handgunner magazine, and if you’re interested, I believe that material may be archived at www.americanhandgunner.com.

2 Responses to “Dillinger Lessons”

  1. Connie Says:

    I am sorry to hear that you suggest John McCain…..I would have normally voted for him too, until I found out that he belongs to the Council on Foreign Relations, so do Obama, Both Clintons, Senior Bush and VP Cheney…..the goal of the CFR is one world government…….this is no longer about being a good democrat or good republican….it’s about being a good American….it’s about survival. A house divided cannot stand…..the last three administrations have worked together to tear at our Bill of Rights, and Constitution…..they worked together to deceive the American people with the Nafta Trade Agreement where are all the jobs, before the ink was dried on that agreement, jobs were sucked out of this country….and now Pres. Bush is pushing for the NAFTA Super Highway, putting truckers out of jobs….when will they take your job, or perhaps they already have…..so much is going on, that we do not hear on the daily news…….Many of the Media outlets are either bought up by or owned by those who are sympathetic towards CFR goals…. The word on the web is write in Dr. Ron Paul if he doesn’t switch to a third party…..check out these websites to see what is going on in this country. Guns are a main issue but other rights are being attacked at the same time….property rights, seed and water battles…who will monopolize them…..control food and water and people will lay down their guns so their kids won’t starve…. The CFR has been busy the last three adminsitrations…..they have friends in high places…media bows to their call, we hear little of the important issues …the media trys to distract Americans with Britney, entertainment and other unimportant items…..John McCain is not the answer believe me….check it out for yourselves….it may look like they are at odds with each other but they are not..they each pander to their groups…..the plan is implimented no matter which one is in office…..let us not continue to be asleep…..tell your friends, for our kids sake if for nothing else. God help us !

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  2. unsangowunfalm Says:

    thats it, man

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